CIA Tactics Endorsed in Secret Memos

[BigArn]

Originally Posted by Parabellum

My problem is NOT with the men and women who serve.

My problem is with the POLITICIANS WHO SEND THEM INTO HARMS WAY FOR NOTHING more than greed.

Spot on.

[dave b]

Don't forget: The politicians who never fought, but order our soldiers to torture people who have never been proved to have been bad guys.

db

[636blurr]

^^^ glad you pointed that out, just another reason why Mccain has far more credentials to be president.

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

That was a stunning post by user. I am just shocked at some views. I am not saying we don't have warts, of course we do.

But that was just over the top, IMO.

Yup I agree fully, as you can see with my debate clearly was on a diffent track than his lol.

[Dakota Kid]

Originally Posted by 636blurr

Yup I agree fully, as you can see with my debate clearly was on a diffent track than his lol.

Yup.

[User Name]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Wow. Simply wow.

Exactly my point. All you can counter with is "Wow".

I'm jealous, denial must be utter bliss.

[Dakota Kid]

Originally Posted by User Name

Exactly my point. All you can counter with is "Wow".

I'm jealous, denial must be utter bliss.

Do you believe our country has any noble qualities? Any?

[dave b]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Do you believe our country has any noble qualities? Any?

I got one: The willingness to elect decent, smart people to high office.

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...

db

[User Name]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

That was a stunning post by user. I am just shocked at some views. I am not saying we don't have warts, of course we do.

But that was just over the top, IMO.

In what way? Care to elaborate?

So do you disagree that we caused the deaths of over a million in Vietnam fighting the Soviets?

Do you disagree that we've killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq fighting the dictator we once supported?

Do you disagree that the US once supported the mujahadeen (including Bin Ladin) and the Taliban when they were fighting the soviets?

Do you disagree that our only involvement in the middle east is for control of and/or access to oil?

The truth is that we don't give a fuck about democracy or human rights when it comes to our desire for oil, and we'll trample over anyone who gets in our way. We'll make deals with brutal dictators, we turn a blind eye to the oppression of the people living under those dictators and when they no longer serve our needs, at best we drop them like hot potatoes, and at worst, we ravage their country with bombs and war removing the dictator we once supported only to install a new one.

Get real dude. You can "Wow" all you want and continue to live in your little dream world. We're no better than the terrorists.

[User Name]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Do you believe our country has any noble qualities? Any?

Yes, it has many, but unfortunately, they're betrayed by an incompetent leadership (on both sides of the isle) and an ignorant public who's more concerned with catching the next episode of "Faimly Guy" than learning just what their government is doing.

And here again we see the problem - you won't argue my points, you turn it around to suggest I hate my country. Classic deflection - love it or leave it.

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by User Name

In what way? Care to elaborate?

So do you disagree that we caused the deaths of over a million in Vietnam fighting the Soviets?

And would have been over fairly quickly if we had support from the liberal throat cutters, so if you want to point fingers, blame the incompitant jack asses that would not let our troops advance and other bullshit.

Do you disagree that we've killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq fighting the dictator we once supported?

I dono do you agree that people get married and down the road find out there spouse has changed and became a bitch/asshole?
However its kind of irrelevent since the people who supported Saddam and the taliban are no longer in office.

Do you disagree that the US once supported the mujahadeen (including Bin Ladin) and the Taliban when they were fighting the soviets?

See above I can add to it but at this time its not necissary.

Do you disagree that our only involvement in the middle east is for control of and/or access to oil?

SO how much money are we getting from Oil in Iraq right now?

The truth is that we don't give a fuck about democracy or human rights when it comes to our desire for oil, and we'll trample over anyone who gets in our way. We'll make deals with brutal dictators, we turn a blind eye to the oppression of the people living under those dictators and when they no longer serve our needs, at best we drop them like hot potatoes, and at worst, we ravage their country with bombs and war removing the dictator we once supported only to install a new one.

Get real dude. You can "Wow" all you want and continue to live in your little dream world. We're no better than the terrorists.

Humans typically are self serving, so no surprise there, do we care about democracy? I dono, democratic countries seem to be more stable even though they have a tendency to elect the same type of assholes but somehow it keeps them in check.


But let me ask you this, what army would be more kind and compassionate invading your nieghborhood a western army or an eastern army?

[Parabellum]

Originally Posted by User Name

In what way? Care to elaborate?

So do you disagree that we caused the deaths of over a million in Vietnam fighting the Soviets?

Do you disagree that we've killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq fighting the dictator we once supported?

Do you disagree that the US once supported the mujahadeen (including Bin Ladin) and the Taliban when they were fighting the soviets?

Do you disagree that our only involvement in the middle east is for control of and/or access to oil?

The truth is that we don't give a fuck about democracy or human rights when it comes to our desire for oil, and we'll trample over anyone who gets in our way. We'll make deals with brutal dictators, we turn a blind eye to the oppression of the people living under those dictators and when they no longer serve our needs, at best we drop them like hot potatoes, and at worst, we ravage their country with bombs and war removing the dictator we once supported only to install a new one.

Get real dude. You can "Wow" all you want and continue to live in your little dream world. We're no better than the terrorists.

I must say that I don't dispute or disagree with any of this.

We financed BOTH SIDES of the Iran-Iraq conflict in the early 80s for profit...if that isn't blood money, I don't know what is.

[Parabellum]

Let us never forget: We dropped not one, but TWO NUCLEAR WEAPONS on Cilvilian targets in WW2.

Civilian targets.

Nuclear weapons.

There is NOTHING that justifies that action.

NOTHING.

[jerome_oneil]

Originally Posted by Parabellum

Let us never forget: We dropped not one, but TWO NUCLEAR WEAPONS on Cilvilian targets in WW2.

Civilian targets.

Nuclear weapons.

There is NOTHING that justifies that action.

NOTHING.

There sure as shit was. Invading the Japanese mainland would have cost tens, if not hundreds of thousands of American lives. We needed to get them to quit, but because of the Emperor's place as infalible God, and the general Japanese view that death was preferable over surrender, it wasn't going to happen unless we could show them that we were not only willing, but capable of wiping out their entire civilization.

Nuking their asses was entirely appropriate.

[636blurr]

Will someone repost this so that anti american Para can see how Innocent the japs were?

GMANews.TV - Japan had experiments on Filipinos during WW2 - Nation - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News - BETA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqH47MIpuoA

YouTube - Unit 731 Japanese Human Medical Experiments (1/5)

YouTube - Human inc.: Japan's Human Experimentation pt.4/5