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09-23-2008, 03:57 PM
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I said "scandals". HE jumped to the assumption that I meant specifically Walter Reed, which was the biggest one and yes, was at a *different* government healthcare system. Which (a) doesn't change the point of my claim at all, and (b) doesn't even mean I was wrong in the first place.
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Okay smart guy , show the scandals specifically involving the VA "in the last few years."
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09-23-2008, 04:40 PM
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09-23-2008, 06:49 PM
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Phil, You are obviously smarter than I am because of how roundly your are attacked around here 
Seriously, what does the gubment do better than the private sector?
Don't dare say the military
Yes, lethal fighting force but as monitarily efficient as watering your lawn with a fire hydrant and 6 1/4" hose.. |
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09-23-2008, 07:12 PM
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Phil, You are obviously smarter than I am because of how roundly your are attacked around here
Seriously, what does the gubment do better than the private sector?
Don't dare say the military
Yes, lethal fighting force but as monitarily efficient as watering your lawn with a fire hydrant and 6 1/4" hose.. |
"What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms, and killing people. It's not good at much else." -- Tom Clancy on Kudlow and Cramer 9/2/03
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09-23-2008, 07:32 PM
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"What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms, and killing people. It's not good at much else." -- Tom Clancy on Kudlow and Cramer 9/2/03
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09-23-2008, 07:35 PM
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You should probably master the post button before you get so smug about understanding the economics of the health care system.
Just sayin'.
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my intarweb froze up last night. oh well.
as far as understanding the economics of the healthcare system, I'm literally surrounded by it day in and day out, I don't have much of a choice. Having a keen interest in economics doesn't help either.
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09-24-2008, 09:42 AM
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Here's a few.
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Funny how that'll shut 'em up in a hurry.
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09-24-2008, 09:55 AM
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Funny how that'll shut 'em up in a hurry. |
That's not possible. They will find a counter argument that says it's still a better system.
I'm starting to think that in order to 'shut them up', let's try universal healthcare for 1 year.
Remember, that in most everything that you try to gain in efficiency that will save money, will always cost jobs.
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09-24-2008, 09:58 AM
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Nope, but family members have and as well as friends. All absolutely loved it there and plan on returning. Someone or some thing must have really peed in your wheaties when you were there.
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There's a HUGE difference between a vacation in Belize and actually moving there. The only thing it's got going for it as a place to live is that most folks speak English.
Hey...it's an underdeveloped country.
Since both you guys live in the PNW, I would give you about a month before you'd say, "Damn, where does a guy get a decent espresso around this place? And a good steak. And why does my mail take three weeks to get here?
I've lived in Mexico and spent 30 years traveling all over Meso-America. My advice is "vacations only." You'll love it. Rum's cheap, the cute little fuzzy-butt college chicks on spring break from the states are all ready and willing, and the Caribbean water is spectacular.
But it's an underdeveloped country. It's the small shit that gets to you every time.
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09-24-2008, 09:59 AM
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That's not possible. They will find a counter argument that says it's still a better system.
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Nah, they'll start another thread instead.
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I'm starting to think that in order to 'shut them up', let's try universal healthcare for 1 year.
Remember, that in most everything that you try to gain in efficiency that will save money, will always cost jobs.
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Yeah, but at least the people who lose their jobs will still have health care, so I'm sure they'll be happy
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09-24-2008, 10:13 AM
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Phil, You are obviously smarter than I am because of how roundly your are attacked around here |
A compliment to neither of you, I think.
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09-24-2008, 10:18 AM
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Yeah, but at least the people who lose their jobs will still have health care, so I'm sure they'll be happy |
Does that create a black hole or some kind of infinite loop?
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09-24-2008, 10:57 AM
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Funny how that'll shut 'em up in a hurry. |
BHD will be back to address it, no doubt. It's going to be interesting to see what he says, but unfortunately, he doesn't live online like some of the rest of us idiots.
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09-24-2008, 11:13 AM
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BHD will be back to address it, no doubt. It's going to be interesting to see what he says, but unfortunately, he doesn't live online like some of the rest of us idiots.
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Touche.
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Does that create a black hole or some kind of infinite loop?
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Hey, maybe that's the secret behind the Hadron Collider... I think you're onto something here.
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09-24-2008, 11:25 AM
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Phil, You are obviously smarter than I am because of how roundly your are attacked around here |
Here. Take a sip of this.
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