Obama Calls for US Military Mobilization

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by SlayingElliott

You're saying the military as it is now doesn't havent people there who dont want to be there? Couldn't be farther from the truth, fact of the matter is, many people are forced into the Military due to their lack of education, lack of money, and other circumstances. There are plenty of people in the military who would like to be doing something else, but the military was their last option.

The only people a draft would piss off are the rich of this country, or those with other opportunities who don't want to get their hands dirty. Whether it be a draft or not, our wars are being fought by the lower class (with some exceptions) because they have no other options. I think its about time everyone gets their hands dirty.

I agree I have a broken sewer line to replace tomorrow be there at about 10am with some waders will ya?

[Wakey]

Well if yall want conscription we will need to remove all the benefits, since it appears we are just spreading the pain, like some sort of punishment

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by ARozanski

Balance that against increased skills, experience, education and responsibility.

I am not advocating mandatory MILITARY service, but civil service, which may include military participation if desired. How much do we get charged for in terms of unemployment and imprisonment? Perhaps giving service through the age of 20 may help people stay out of trouble.

Besides, Starship Troopers rock.

The trouble with that is you are encouraging a socialist non thinking society. the military is not for everyone, plain and simple, but to advocate creating a society of non thinking drones that automatically do their governments bidding goes against the very foundation of this country.

[King Cobra]

Time for everyone to get their hands dirty? The war is illegal and immoral, I'll never fight and die for such evil imperialistic nonsense.

[bumblebee]

Originally Posted by SlayingElliott

You're saying the military as it is now doesn't havent people there who dont want to be there? Couldn't be farther from the truth, fact of the matter is, many people are forced into the Military due to their lack of education, lack of money, and other circumstances. There are plenty of people in the military who would like to be doing something else, but the military was their last option.

The only people a draft would piss off are the rich of this country, or those with other opportunities who don't want to get their hands dirty. Whether it be a draft or not, our wars are being fought by the lower class (with some exceptions) because they have no other options. I think its about time everyone gets their hands dirty.

Sorry to tell you this...but the rich don't get drafted...they get deferments or National Guard duty. Yes there are people in the military who don't want to be there...I saw people arrive with LEO escorts and some in handcuffs because they broke the law by not reporting when drafted and were arrested.

You think people who volunteered and then decided they were unhappy and wanted to leave can possibly be as disgruntled or cause as many problems as people who were literally, physically forced to report, you are mistaken

[RiverCityRebel]

Originally Posted by King Cobra

Time for everyone to get their hands dirty? The war is illegal and immoral, I'll never fight and die for such evil imperialistic nonsense.

Which one? Though I agree that Operation Iraqi Liberation was perhaps just a little tiny bit horrifically misguided and evil, I don't think our presence in Afghanistan is unjustified.

Although, if we'd never had people in Afghanistan back during the Cold War, there'd have been no bin Laden network to facilitate lobbing airliners at our skyscrapers.

[King Cobra]

Originally Posted by RiverCityRebel

Which one? Though I agree that Operation Iraqi Liberation was perhaps just a little tiny bit horrifically misguided and evil, I don't think our presence in Afghanistan is unjustified.

Although, if we'd never had people in Afghanistan back during the Cold War, there'd have been no bin Laden network to facilitate lobbing airliners at our skyscrapers.

::grabs bullhorn Alex Jones style::

9/11 was an inside job!, 9/11 was an inside job!, 9/11 was an inside job!...

[RiverCityRebel]

Allrighty then.

[Nightfall]

Originally Posted by 636blurr

With troops in well over 100 countries the answer is simple, start pulling out and putting them where they need to be. Our military is bloated, very bloated but only becouse we have the "we need more mentality" no we dont, we need to take charge, shrink the fuck out of it to realistic levels and you would still have more than enough people to should the need arise.

Craig, I swear we must be related or something man, you have any Scot in ya? lol

I couldn't agree more with your statement.

[ARozanski]

Originally Posted by 636blurr

The trouble with that is you are encouraging a socialist non thinking society. the military is not for everyone, plain and simple, but to advocate creating a society of non thinking drones that automatically do their governments bidding goes against the very foundation of this country.

As opposed to automatically doing what the TV tells them? The way I see it, we're already dangerously close to the drone stage, regardless of causation.

Besides, I only said one-two years. I don't think that's enough to grind the individuality out of people. And I was talking about civil service, not just military.

[BuiltGypsy]

The military and television aren't comparable.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by King Cobra

::grabs bullhorn Alex Jones style::

9/11 was an inside job!, 9/11 was an inside job!, 9/11 was an inside job!...

You know his name!

[ty454]

Originally Posted by jim schmidt

You know his name!

A person's true nature can only be hidden for so long...