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Old 09-12-2008, 01:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some highlights from Gibson's interview with Sarah Palin today:

Palin tries to defend qualifications in interview

FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska - John McCain running mate Sarah Palin sought Thursday to defend her qualifications but struggled with foreign policy, unable to describe President Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against threatening nations and acknowledging she's never met a foreign head of state.

Palin said other than a trip to visit soldiers in Kuwait and Germany last year — "a trip of a lifetime" that "changed my life" — her only other foreign travel was to Mexico and Canada. She also said she had never met a head of state and added: "If you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you."

Pressed about what insights into recent Russian actions she gained by living in Alaska, Palin answered: "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

In the interview Thursday, Palin appeared unsure of the Bush doctrine — essentially that the United States must help spread democracy to stop terrorism and that the nation will act pre-emptively to stop potential foes.

Asked whether she agreed with that, Palin said: "In what respect, Charlie?" Gibson pressed her for an interpretation of it. She said: "His world view." That prompted Gibson to say "no, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war" and describe it to her.

"I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation," Palin said, though added "there have been mistakes made."

Palin called for Georgia and the Ukraine to be included in NATO, a treaty that requires the U.S. to defend them militarily. She also said Russia's attack into Georgia last month was "unprovoked." Asked to clarify that she'd support going to war over Georgia, she said: "Perhaps so."

Palin tries to defend qualifications in interview - Yahoo! News




WTF? Doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is? Never met a foriegn head of state? Thinks "perhaps" we should to go to war with Russia? Holy crap!

This is somebody who's "ready" to be president of the most powerful country in the world? You gotta be shittin' me!

She looked like a frightened deer in the headlights in the clips I saw. Anybody got any video yet? Post it up if ya do... ya'll gotta see this!
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The only one I saw was the Palin answering the question of "do you feel you have enough experience to lead take this position, and did you ever question if you are ready to take this job".

I thought she did a good job answering the question, but its all a matter of perspective, I guess.
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Palin vs. Gibson, Round 1
The ABC News anchor flummoxes the GOP amateur.


Without being smarmy about it or unfurling gotcha questions, ABC News anchor Charles Gibson demonstrated that he knows volumes more about national security and foreign policy than does Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Palin recited her answers as if reading from a Teleprompter inside her head. The extensive coaching she has received could not save her from embarrassment in this exchange:

Gibson: Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?

Palin: In what respect, Charlie?

Gibson (refusing to give her a hint): What do you interpret it to be?

Palin: His worldview?

Gibson: No, the Bush Doctrine, enunciated in September 2002, before the Iraq War.

(Palin attempts to fake it for 25 seconds with a swirl of generalities before Gibson, showing all the gentleness of a remedial social studies teacher, interjects.)

Gibson: The Bush Doctrine as I understand it is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense. That we have the right of a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

(Of course Palin agrees with the Bush Doctrine, but she can't come out and say so having just admitted that she doesn't know it by name.}

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Palin can't blame her muddled responses on Gibson, who treats her fairly and conducts himself professionally. Never mind about her not being ready to be president. She wasn't even ready for this interview.

ABC News anchor Charles Gibson flummoxes Sarah Palin in their first interview - By Jack Shafer - Slate Magazine
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Here's the ignorance Sarah is competing against. Senator Biden tells a handicapped wheelchair bound state Senator to standup:

YouTube - Biden Gaffe: Asks a Gentleman in a Wheelchair to Stand Up



The reality is that the only candidates that are actually inspiring anyone to get out an vote are Obama and Palin but it's now shaping up to be an interesting election.
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Here's the ignorance Sarah is competing against. Senator Biden tells a handicapped wheelchair bound state Senator to standup:

YouTube - Biden Gaffe: Asks a Gentleman in a Wheelchair to Stand Up
Huh? How is he supposed to know the guy who's name he is reading off a piece of paper is in a wheelchair... in a room full of people sitting in chairs?

If you think an innocent mistake like that remotely compares to Palin not even knowing what the Bush Doctrine is, you are even dumber and more desperate than I thought.

The only ignorance I see in your post is yours, WhineyDave. Jeezus.
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Presented with your predictable far left slant and the reference from the out of touch with reality "Slate". A correspondent talking with Anderson Cooper on CNN (which is no friend to the Republican Party) stated that only extremists like you would put such a slant on her response. The reality is that Washington insiders including politicians and media correspondents never use the term Bush Doctrine but instead used Pre-emptive Doctrine (you're so deceptive that I'm sure you know that but other members should consider that there is always your far left side, the far right side and the reality somewhere in the middle).
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Presented with your predictable far left slant and the reference from the out of touch with reality "Slate". A correspondent talking with Anderson Cooper on CNN (which is no friend to the Republican Party) stated that only extremists like you would put such a slant on her response. The reality is that Washington insiders including politicians and media correspondents never use the term Bush Doctrine but instead used Pre-emptive Doctrine (you're so deceptive that I'm sure you know that but other members should consider that there is always your far left side, the far right side and the reality somewhere in the middle).

No need to shout. Palin has more interviews scheduled. I'm sure she'll do better next time. And, eventually she might make a good VP. The kid's got spunk.
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Presented with your predictable far left slant and the reference from the out of touch with reality "Slate". A correspondent talking with Anderson Cooper on CNN (which is no friend to the Republican Party) stated that only extremists like you would put such a slant on her response. The reality is that Washington insiders including politicians and media correspondents never use the term Bush Doctrine but instead used Pre-emptive Doctrine (you're so deceptive that I'm sure you know that but other members should consider that there is always your far left side, the far right side and the reality somewhere in the middle).
Spare me the horseshit spinjob, Whiney. Those are her own words in transcript, and the 1st post is straight from the Associated Press. You're the only 'extremist' here, just another neoclown apologist nutcase.

More on Palin from the AP release:

_Said she "didn't hesitate" when McCain asked her to be his running mate. "I answered him 'yes' because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink. So I didn't blink then even when asked to run as his running mate."

_Contradicted an assertion she made at her former church that "our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." Asked whether she thought the United States was fighting a holy war, she said she meant to convey that she agreed with Abraham Lincoln's quote that "I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words."

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No slant there. Her own words. "Can't blink"? "Sending our soldiers on a task from God"? Keerist, if she ever got in the whitehouse we'd be up shit creek without a paddle.

I didn't think anybody could be worse than Bush, but there she is. Holy crap.
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Clearly, the problem here is Charlie Gibson. He is just far too tough an interviewer, with his probing questions and feisty manner. I think it was a mistake for her to take on such a hardass. You just knew he was going to torpedo her, that's his whole style.

Its not like he is some friendly, well mannered guy who interviews like a light weight and she is just a dumbshit. No way it could have been that...
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Very predictable leftist spin Scrut. As if anything she could have said would have met with your approval?

A few points:

First, she answered the question on the "Bush Doctrine" exactly right: she recognized it was a trap, and she let Gibson define what he meant. If you ask 10 different people what "the Bush Doctine" is, you'll get 10 different answers.

Second, her answer on Georgia and Russia was exactly correct: If Georgia was a NATO member and they asked for protection, of course it is imcumbent upon other NATO nations to come to their aid. It either means something to be a NATO member, or it doesn't. Your partisan bullshit of trying to manipulate her answer to somehow mean that she wants to go war with Russia is assinine.

Third, the religious references that Gibson tried to snag her on WERE out of context. If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would have looked into this deeper and you would realize this.

Finally, when has Obama ever been subjected to this kind of derisive scrutiny on his experience (of which he has NONE)? Hubris?! Please!

Palin absolutely aced this interview. If Obama were ever subjected to this kind of biased, hostile interview he'd be reduced to a stuttering head-scratching basket-case.
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Just another communications major / soccer mom who thinks she knows what the fuck she is talking about! It's OK I deal with them all the time. Just tell them to take the square root of 7 and watch their brains melt down.
I deal with dumb "I know it all" shits like her all the time.

It's one thing to be ill informed and be honest with your self and others and work towards gaining a better understanding. It's another to be a jack ass dumb shit and try to fool people in believing you know what the hell you are talking about.

I know what I would have done in this interview, I would have grabbed a history book, a geography book and perhaps a book on biology kindly give it to her and tell her we would resume the interview in a week.
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You can watch the interview here

Sadly, it doesn't matter if she hasn't a fucking clue, she's attractive and she likes guns, so Republicans will vote for her. As dumb as she is, most of the American public is even dumber, so as long as she can answer questions without blinking (as she can) it makes no difference that the words coming out of her mouth make no logical sense whatsoever. Voters will instead see Obama and Biden's well reasoned answers to complicated questions as examples of their pompous elitism. Such is the state of our country.
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Very predictable leftist spin Scrut. As if anything she could have said would have met with your approval?

A few points:

First, she answered the question on the "Bush Doctrine" exactly right: she recognized it was a trap, and she let Gibson define what he meant. If you ask 10 different people what "the Bush Doctine" is, you'll get 10 different answers.

Second, her answer on Georgia and Russia was exactly correct: If Georgia was a NATO member and they asked for protection, of course it is imcumbent upon other NATO nations to come to their aid. It either means something to be a NATO member, or it doesn't. Your partisan bullshit of trying to manipulate her answer to somehow mean that she wants to go war with Russia is assinine.

Third, the religious references that Gibson tried to snag her on WERE out of context. If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would have looked into this deeper and you would realize this.

Finally, when has Obama ever been subjected to this kind of derisive scrutiny on his experience (of which he has NONE)? Hubris?! Please!

Palin absolutely aced this interview. If Obama were ever subjected to this kind of biased, hostile interview he'd be reduced to a stuttering head-scratching basket-case.

Very well articulated and this is the consensus of main stream middle of the road voters who are empassioned with anger by contemptuous and bloggers such as The Central Scrutinizer (who ironically are Obama's greatest thorn with their counterproductive obnoxious smear techniques). There's no telling how many people will get out and vote against Obama because of dailly slander by The Central Scrutinizer (then multipy that time a million nationwide)
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It's one thing to be ill informed and be honest with your self and others and work towards gaining a better understanding. It's another to be a jack ass dumb shit and try to fool people in believing you know what the hell you are talking about.
Wow.

Pot. Kettle. Black.
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Oops.

That's hardly the "Bush Doctrine". Bush may have expanded upon it, but it is hardly a new idea. Look into Clinton's '98 missile attack on the Sudan sometime.

The practice as a named policy is technically the Caroline Doctrine and goes back to 1837.
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