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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
I think the only person I know who believes that you must go to church to get into heaven was my ex's grandmother. That woman loved me because she thought I was a Catholic, but then later found out that the local church paid me to play trumpet along with the choir a dozen times a year. I suppose you could call me an Agnostic Atheist...I don't believe in a God but nor can I disprove him so I won't throw the possibility of His existence out the window.
I've been playing my trumpet for the church for about 5 years now and I have quite an odd relationship with "Father Bob" (as I call him). Each time I come in he says something along the lines of "When are we going to convert you?" and I'll respond with something like, "As soon as you let me wear my hat in here" or "Once adultery is taken out of the 10 commandments." He laughs, I laugh and we don't judge or look down on each other's views or opinions.
The only time I'm really bad in church is when it's Midnight Mass and the list of songs comes up in an odd order. Example: "See the Virgin", "Children Run Joyfully", "As the Shepherds Watch"...See the virgin children run joyfully as the shepherds watch - I just started laughing and got a few mean looks but I couldn't help it, they should have changed the order of the songs.
We are, however, agreed that the Bible does encourage a belief in God.
Agreed.
Not trying to change your mind or anything, but I would like to know if you have any scripture to back up a belief that works are required to get you into heaven. I believe more along the lines that faith is all that is required to get you to heaven. Works are generally a natural result of that faith.
If works are required, what happens when there is a deathbed conversion? The person accepts Christ, but die before there is a chance for any works.
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The only time I'm really bad in church is when it's Midnight Mass and the list of songs comes up in an odd order. Example: "See the Virgin", "Children Run Joyfully", "As the Shepherds Watch"...See the virgin children run joyfully as the shepherds watch - I just started laughing and got a few mean looks but I couldn't help it, they should have changed the order of the songs.
I'd crack up too.
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The only time I'm really bad in church is when it's Midnight Mass and the list of songs comes up in an odd order. Example: "See the Virgin", "Children Run Joyfully", "As the Shepherds Watch"...See the virgin children run joyfully as the shepherds watch - I just started laughing and got a few mean looks but I couldn't help it, they should have changed the order of the songs.
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So I'm supposed to bring some grub to a church event tonight. I had thought of baking a brie and adding seasonings and fruit. But I'm not going to have time, so I thought a fruit plate might be nice. Quick and easy.
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So I'm supposed to bring some grub to a church event tonight. I had thought of baking a brie and adding seasonings and fruit. But I'm not going to have time, so I thought a fruit plate might be nice. Quick and easy.
So I'm supposed to bring some grub to a church event tonight. I had thought of baking a brie and adding seasonings and fruit. But I'm not going to have time, so I thought a fruit plate might be nice. Quick and easy.
Will I got to Hell now?
What kind of fruit? apple? fig?
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I remember when a million was a million. They all have ways to make you pay.
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Agreed.
