What's the difference between changing one's position and flip floping?

[User Name]

Originally Posted by SXSMITH

No, she was cited for trespassing on private property.

From the article: "The officers said she could get rid of the sign and go on into the event, or keep the sign and get ticketed for trespassing"

So in other words, she was welcome to be there - as long as she didn't carry her sign. Not exactly what comes to mind when I think of trespassing.

[flylooper]

Originally Posted by HighsideSV

A "flip-flop" is a complete reversal of stance that results from a change in political climate rather than a change in the situation.

Obama suddenly deciding the telecom immunity is OK when he had previously stated the opposite is a flip-flop as it resulted entirely from a need to garner votes rather than any change in the situation.

Obama stating that he is open to revising his stance on Iraq based on information is not a flip-flop as it is simply an recognition that changing circumstances require changing approaches.

Exactly. A position can evolve with changing circumstances. A politician should be allowed to change his position. Mine sure do.

A "flip-flop" is a obvious change of position for political advantage.

[baldheadeddork]

I'm not even sure how to classify this.

McCain: "We're not just succeeding in Iraq, we have succeeded!"

McCain seconds after that: “This is a fragile victory. This is a fragile success. … If we will continue this, we will win this war.”

So when will we actually win? Same conversation: “I can say that the war will be won when we will have a majority of Americans … returned.”

We really need that head-against-wall smilie.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by baldheadeddork

We really need that head-against-wall smilie.

+1 gazillion!

[SXSMITH]

Originally Posted by User Name

From the article: "The officers said she could get rid of the sign and go on into the event, or keep the sign and get ticketed for trespassing"

So in other words, she was welcome to be there - as long as she didn't carry her sign. Not exactly what comes to mind when I think of trespassing.

1) Find the citation and tell me exactly what is says. It will differer from your opinion.

2)

Originally Posted by jim schmidt

She sounds feisty. I predict its not the last we've heard from her.

And we have heard the last from her.

[Trash]

Originally Posted by baldheadeddork

I'm not even sure how to classify this.

McCain: "We're not just succeeding in Iraq, we have succeeded!"

McCain seconds after that: “This is a fragile victory. This is a fragile success. … If we will continue this, we will win this war.”

So when will we actually win? Same conversation: “I can say that the war will be won when we will have a majority of Americans … returned.”

We really need that head-against-wall smilie.

Flipped-flopped in the same sentence. That's gotta be a record.

Poor McGrampy.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by SXSMITH

And we have heard the last from her.

I'm not so sure you're right, but if you are, that's a shame. She's just the kind of civil patriot we need.

[SXSMITH]

Originally Posted by jim schmidt

I'm not so sure you're right, but if you are, that's a shame. She's just the kind of civil patriot we need.

Well, she does pop up in satire from time to time.

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