Another Obama surrogate smears McCain

Dakota Kid · 06-30-2008, 09:59 AM

Jeezus. This was so sickening,that even Bob Schieffer had to cut Clark off and remind him that Obama has NO military experience...not a sniff.

This just proves to me that Obama is full of shit. He is no different than any other politician.

"Change", my ass.

WASHINGTON - Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, a former Democratic presidential candidate now supporting Barack Obama, said Sunday John McCain's military service does not automatically qualify him to be commander in chief.

Underscoring during a national television appearance a position he has been expressing for several weeks, Clark said performing heroic military service is not a substitute for gaining command experience.

"In the matters of national security policy making, it's a matter of understanding risk," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation." "It's a matter of gauging your opponents and it's a matter of being held accountable. John McCain's never done any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war.

"He has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has traveled all over the world, but he hasn't held executive responsibility," Clark said. "That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded — that wasn't a wartime squadron."

Moderator Bob Schieffer, who raised the issue by citing similar remarks Clark has made previously, noted that Obama hadn't had those experiences nor had he ridden in a fighter plane and been shot down. "Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president," Clark replied.

In a March conference call with reporters while he was still backing Hillary Rodham Clinton, Clark said: "Everybody admires John McCain's service as a fighter pilot, his courage as a prisoner of war. There's no issue there. He's a great man and an honorable man. But having served as a fighter pilot — and I know my experience as a company commander in Vietnam — that doesn't prepare you to be commander in chief in terms of dealing with the national strategic issues that are involved. It may give you a feeling for what the troops are going through in the process, but it doesn't give you the experience first hand of the national strategic issues."

He reiterated that position last week in an article on The Huffington Post Web site.

"If Barack Obama's campaign wants to question John McCain's military service, that's their right," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said after Clark's appearance Sunday. "But let's please drop the pretense that Barack Obama stands for a new type of politics. The reality is he's proving to be a typical politician who is willing to say anything to get elected, including allowing his campaign surrogates to demean and attack John McCain's military service record."

flylooper · 06-30-2008, 10:06 AM

Jesus, What the hell is this? What, for crissakes, is your point? Clark was saying that getting shot down isn't a qualification for the presidency. Are you saying it is? Is THAT your point?

Dakota Kid · 06-30-2008, 10:10 AM

The point, which was clearly lost on you, is that Obama is no different than any other politician. He will say anything, have his surrogates say anything, to get elected. For Obama or any of his surrogates to attack John McCain's service record is simply a disgrace.

Get it now?

Trash · 06-30-2008, 10:19 AM

"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war." - Clark

""Everybody admires John McCain's service as a fighter pilot, his courage as a prisoner of war. There's no issue there. He's a great man and an honorable man. But having served as a fighter pilot — and I know my experience as a company commander in Vietnam...." - Clark

WTF are you whining about? Talk about grasping at straws.

flylooper · 06-30-2008, 10:24 AM

Deek.....can you read? Are you that far gone? Holy shit. You really are sick.

Dakota Kid · 06-30-2008, 10:38 AM

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Deek.....can you read? Are you that far gone? Holy shit. You really are sick.

The previously posted comments by trash were not said in the interview yesterday. Those comments were months ago. You need to pay attention a little more.

Again...you flamed. No substance. Actually...nothing.

flylooper · 06-30-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

The previously posted comments by trash were not said in the interview yesterday. Those comments were months ago. You need to pay attention a little more.

Again...you flamed. No substance. Actually...nothing.

Well, you NEVER cut and paste. I'm just noting that in the extremely rare instances that you do.....well, it's a total disconnect between what you're trying to say and what your pasting up on the board. It's kind like showing us picture of, say, The Statue of Liberty, and telling us all about copper.

Trash · 06-30-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

The previously posted comments by trash were not said in the interview yesterday. Those comments were months ago. You need to pay attention a little more.

Again...you flamed. No substance. Actually...nothing.

"In the matters of national security policy making, it's a matter of understanding risk," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation." "It's a matter of gauging your opponents and it's a matter of being held accountable. John McCain's never done any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war.

SXSMITH · 06-30-2008, 11:26 AM

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...Retired Gen. Wesley Clark...

Who??

Dakota Kid · 06-30-2008, 11:30 AM

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Who??

Well, he backed Hillary before he backed Obama

but I agree with your sentiment, he is a nobody politically speaking.

keystonejenks · 06-30-2008, 11:45 AM

Yup, it's the political season. You know, the one where people just relay on the lazy media instead of finding out info for themselves. Clark's comments weren't a shot a McCain, he was responding to the question asked.

Clark's comments were taken out of context, similar to Wright's sermon that only had a small portion looped over-and-over again.

Dakota Kid · 06-30-2008, 11:49 AM

You know it is political season when the excuse "taken out of context" is often submitted.

And much more often than not, it is the left making the excuse.

I gotta give Bob Sheiffer credit where credit is due, he immediately challenged ol Wes on that.

Oh, and "Reverand" Wright? LOL, he was heard loud and clear. THat is why Obama had to deep six him and his church.

Laughable.

timd99 · 06-30-2008, 12:14 PM

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Clark's comments weren't a shot a McCain, he was responding to the question asked.

Bullshit.

Dakota Kid · 06-30-2008, 01:52 PM

To be fair, I just read an AP release wherein Obama has distanced himself from Clark's idiotic comments:

Obama said that patriotism "must, if it is to mean anything, involve the willingness to sacrifice" and sought to distance himself from Clark's remarks without mentioning them.

"For those like John McCain who have endured physical torment in service to our country — no further proof of such sacrifice is necessary," Obama said. "And let me also add that no one should ever devalue that service, especially for the sake of a political campaign, and that goes for supporters on both sides."

The comment drew loud applause.

flylooper · 06-30-2008, 02:20 PM

Okay. But the question was whether or not "sacrifice" is a qualification for the presidency.
See, you're confusing the two. Clark wasn't.

It can be assumed that McCain is neither more nor less qualified for holding a political office than anyone else if everything else is equal except that McCain was a POW and no one else was. You don't need a red badge of courage to run for office; or even to be patriotic. Of course, everything else is not equal.

Take Dick Cheney. Please.