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Old 06-24-2008, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I can't remember if it was on STN or SBN when some of the Left were crowing over the National Intel Estimate (NIE) report saying Bush was wrong on Iran. Of course it was reversing itself from the previous report.

You'll also have to help me remember if Mohamed ElBaradei is a good guy or a loon. I don't recall his standing with you guys.

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wcbstv.com - IAEA Chief: Iran Could Make Nuke In 6 Months

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (CBS) ― The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency said Iran could create a nuclear weapon in six months.

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei spoke on Al-Arabiya television on June 20, discussing Iran's nuclear program, and the potential for the Middle Eastern country to produce a nuclear weapon.
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Maybe they could. Are they actively working on it? Who knows. Are we going to bomb them back to the stone age to prevent it? It wouldn't work, so what do you propose?
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I thought righties thought the UN was the devil's spawning ground? Did I miss the conversion?
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I think the targets shift for convenience and argument's sake. That hook smells like bad bait.
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Maybe they could. Are they actively working on it? Who knows. Are we going to bomb them back to the stone age to prevent it? It wouldn't work, so what do you propose?
I propose having the Israelies wipe out their enrichement program with a strike.

And if they get pesky, push a button over here for one of these...

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I thought righties thought the UN was the devil's spawning ground? Did I miss the conversion?

Well, is there anyone you'll believe that Iran is a threat? Or are you waiting for millions to die first?
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Third paragraph - lingerie, small appliances, luggage, context...

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"If Iran wants to turn to the production of nuclear weapons, it must leave the NPT, expel the IAEA inspectors, and then it would need at least, considering the number of centrifuges and the quantity of uranium Iran has...It would need at least six months to one year,"

"Therefore, Iran will not be able to reach the point where we would wake up one morning to an Iran with a nuclear weapon," he said.

His interviewer then asked "If Iran decides today to expel the IAEA from the country, it will need six months to produce [nuclear] weapons?"

The IAEA chief answered, "It would need this period to produce a weapon, and to obtain highly-enriched uranium in sufficient quantities for a single nuclear weapon."
At least six months, after Iran expels the IAEA inspectors. They would also need to successfully test a weapon before being sure that their design worked, which is never a sure thing for a new nuclear power.

Then after they built another they would only be 149 or so behind Israel, and several thousand behind the US.

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It is only a matter of time.

Ahmadinejad quotes...

"If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future, you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. If you do not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender." - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 15, 2006

TEHRAN (Reuters) - An Iranian newspaper has been banned after carrying articles critical of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's economic policies, the state Press TV satellite station said on its website.
Iran bans daily critical of Ahmadinejad: report - Yahoo! News

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets."

"We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them."

"The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless."

"The West claims that more than six million Jews were killed in World War II and to compensate for that they established and support Israel. If it is true that the Jews were killed in Europe, why should Israel be established in the East, in Palestine?"

"If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel. Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?"

Threats against Israel


"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

"If the West does not support Israel, this regime will be toppled. As it has lost its raison d' tre, Israel will be annihilated."

"Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed."

"Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm."

Relations with West


"[There is] no significant need for the United States."

"Iranians possess delicate characteristics. They introduce their merits, which are extremely attractive to whole the world."

"We are ready to hold dialogue with all countries of the world except for the Israeli regime."

"Those who insulted the prophet should know that you cannot obscure the sun with a handful of dust. The dust will just get back and blind your own eyes."

"We increasingly see that people around the world are flocking towards a main focal point - that is the Almighty God. My question for you is, 'Do you not want to join them?'"

"There are no limits to our dialogue."

"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?"

Conspiracy theory

"Could [9/11] be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services - or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren't those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?"

Freedom of speech

"We believe that accurate dissemination of news and information is necessary for political growth and awareness as well as effective interaction among nations in today's world."

Oh crap, I just wet myself...
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Ahmadinnerplate is a goofball. The real power in Iran is with the Ayatollahs. Ahmanutjob is a loon and he would be a dangerous loon if he had real power. He has some power, but all his rattling around goes nowhere without the blessing of the supreme council of Ayatollahs. So, why do we spend so much time building the guy up? He makes an outstanding boogeyman, but otherwise he is a lot of noise. We should be talking to the Ayatollahs and blowing Ahmadinejad off.
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Why not wipe out Isreal? They have proven very good at terrorism themselves. why allow them nukes and no one else?
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You want to blow Ahmadinejad off?

Sorry, just watched Happy Gilmore...
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I propose having the Israelies wipe out their enrichement program with a strike.
When Iran actually is a nuclear threat (I'm not at all convinced it will ever happen) Mossad (sp?) will know before we do and what will happen is the Israelis will notify us either right before or right after they blow the Iranian nuke facilities to smithereens. I'm really not worried about it.

Smith, you've used better bait. All the fishing lately tucker out your casting arm?

If I were to be concerned about anything along these lines it would be mishandled ex-Soviet materials, including biological weapons, getting into the hands of terrorists.
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It is only a matter of time.

Ahmadinejad quotes...

"The West claims that more than six million Jews were killed in World War II and to compensate for that they established and support Israel. If it is true that the Jews were killed in Europe, why should Israel be established in the East, in Palestine?"

"If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel. Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?" ...
It's a bit late now, but he does have a couple of valid questions there. It would have made a lot more sense and avoided a lot of trouble if they'd have given Bavaria to the Jews instead.

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