Ron Paul Claims Pelosi Spiked Iran Bill

[King Cobra]

Rick Pedraza

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:07 PM

Representative Ron Paul says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi removed a section from a bill passed by Congress which would have barred the U.S. from going to war with Iran without a congressional vote, claiming she did so at the behest of the leadership of Israel and AIPAC.

Paul, a former Republican presidential contender who formally removed himself from the party’s nomination race last week, makes the allegation on C-SPAN during a recently held foreign policy conference in Virginia.

Paul says Pelosi’s first act as House Speaker in 2006 was to “deliberately” remove a portion of a legislative spending bill which said the United States “can't go to war with Iran without getting approval from Congress.”

According to Paul, Pelosi and her allies in the chamber's Democratic leadership initially accepted the bill designed to outline an Iraq exit strategy, but during a revision of the legislation excluded the statement regarding the need for congressional approval of any military assault on the neighboring country of Iran.

“She [Pelosi] removed it deliberately,” Paul says. “And then, the astounding thing is, when asked why, she said the leadership in Israel asked her to. That was in the newspaper, that was in 'The Washington Post,' that she was asked by AIPAC and others not to do that."

Paul implies Pelosi, desperate to advance her flawed spending legislation, bargained away the proposal that would have been the House leadership's primary vehicle for challenging the administration's policies in the region.

According to John Nichols, who covered the story about Pelosi’s capitulation at the time for “The Nation,” Pelosi was "under pressure from some conservative members of her caucus, and from lobbyists associated with neoconservative groups that want war with Iran, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).”

Paul's allegation is corroborated by 'The Asia Times', which in another article published at the time says AIPAC was strongly against attaching "a provision to a Pentagon spending bill that would require President Bush to get congressional approval before attacking Iran. AIPAC was strongly against it because it viewed the legislation as taking the military option 'off the table.' The provision was killed."

The article also cites Congressman Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, as saying [Pelosi's] decision was due to AIPAC.

Newsmax.com - Ron Paul Claims Pelosi Spiked Iran Bill

[SXSMITH]

Who??

[Baldrick]

If Paul's allegations are true, I'm not the least bit surprised. It's been widely known for years that AIPAC and Israel are a dominant voice in the halls of Congress, regardless of the party affiliation of the lobbied member, or which house they're in.

[Mr. Whippy]

So let me get this straight, first Pelosi F's up our influence with the Turks by proposing a bill declaring an episode of ethnic cleansing of Armenians a hundred years ago because she has a bunch of Armenians in her constituency--followed shortly by Turkey invading Northern Iraq. Thanks for giving them an open invitiation, Nancy.

Now, she's decided to be the wo-manikin of AIPAC and Israel.

Is she inept or just a pathetic panderer?

[SXSMITH]

Originally Posted by Mr. Whippy

So let me get this straight, first Pelosi F's up our influence with the Turks by proposing a bill declaring an episode of ethnic cleansing of Armenians a hundred years ago because she has a bunch of Armenians in her constituency--followed shortly by Turkey invading Northern Iraq. Thanks for giving them an open invitiation, Nancy.

Now, she's decided to be the wo-manikin of AIPAC and Israel.

Is she inept or just a pathetic panderer?

Do you get the feeling that starting in 2009 (with few Republicans in sight) that it's going to be a good year for discussing politics?

We'll be living the vision of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama with little or no oversight.

Our democracy insures that we are governed by no better than we deserve.

[Dakota Kid]

Originally Posted by Mr. Whippy

So let me get this straight, first Pelosi F's up our influence with the Turks by proposing a bill declaring an episode of ethnic cleansing of Armenians a hundred years ago because she has a bunch of Armenians in her constituency--followed shortly by Turkey invading Northern Iraq. Thanks for giving them an open invitiation, Nancy.

Now, she's decided to be the wo-manikin of AIPAC and Israel.

Is she inept or just a pathetic panderer?

You are surprised that YOUR leader in the Congress is this fucked up?

Really??

[Gaolee]

Originally Posted by SXSMITH

Do you get the feeling that starting in 2009 (with few Republicans in sight) that it's going to be a good year for discussing politics?

You are just licking your chops and sharpening your knives!

I am sure they won't disappoint you with plenty to carve up, too.

[jim schmidt]

When you start with Newsmax, you can rely on important facts being missing. My guess is that a controversial provision was dropped in order to get enough votes to pass a bill that had other worthwhile things in it.

This is how it works in Washington. In order to pass legislation, it has to appeal to a wide group of viewpoints. More likely in this case is that Bush said he'd veto it if the provision was in there. None of this is the least bit unusual or nefarious.

Newsmax -- didn't think anyone used that piece of shit anymore.

[Dakota Kid]

Dems are brilliant, Republicans are boring...and stupid.

Jim Schmidt says so.

[timd99]

That is one of the things that just kills me. Why, when both sides seem to come up with a bill that makes sense, does the other side just find a way to bury it with overloaded additions, and kill it on purpose because they want to?

Its like schoolyard antics. "Well, my party generally disagrees with this beneficial bill, so we are going to provide measures that it never passes?"

"You screwed our last bill, so we will screw yours!"

There should be compromise without spite, but I don't see it.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Dems are brilliant, Republicans are boring...and stupid.

Jim Schmidt says so.

It was already obvious. You don't need to continue to prove it, Spammy.

[Dakota Kid]

Originally Posted by jim schmidt

It was already obvious. You don't need to continue to prove it, Spammy.

Well, if YOU say so, it must be true.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

Well, if YOU say so, it must be true.

Count on it. But everything you post also speaks for itself.

[Dakota Kid]

"preciate it, Jimbo.

[flylooper]

Originally Posted by King Cobra

Rick Pedraza

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:07 PM

LOL. I wonder how much cred you can give a website which puts Dick Morris as a feature writer on its masthead.

Answer: Not much.