the gop and big buisness, what gives?

[shah269]

Now trying to stay....civilized here for a post or two.
What gives? Why do you gopers love big business?
I could almost understand why you defended this war so much.
After all this was is a direct representation of your boy king and any attack on the war was therefore in effect an attack on your boy king.
But big business? What has it done for you? Or for anyone lately?
Higher energy prices, major layoffs, outsourcing just to name a few. Yet you gopers are willing to come here and spin like your lives depended on it?
What's the link? You don't care if you mother freezes to death due to not being able to pay for heat or for food....as long as gays aren't able to marry?
Help me out here because I just don't get it?
Has the failing economy become the new war and thus the other representation of your boy kings administration?
Hele me figure you out? What gives?

[gfarce]

They're all afraid to tax cap gains, corporations and high-income folks because they hold out a ray of hope that, someday, they'll make money on stock, be a fat corporate cat and make a ton of $$$.

And, should that day ever come, they want to keep all that money.

In the meantime, though, they're tools of the greedy class of people they foolishly try to protect.

[jim schmidt]

You are a flame to the moths, Shah.

[shah269]

Originally Posted by gfarce

They're all afraid to tax cap gains, corporations and high-income folks because they hold out a ray of hope that, someday, they'll make money on stock, be a fat corporate cat and make a ton of $$$.

And, should that day ever come, they want to keep all that money.

In the meantime, though, they're tools of the greedy class of people they foolishly try to protect.

I never thought of it that way! ooooooh got it! Well that kind of makes sence. Be it making as much sence as dating a fat chick for the blow jobs but still makes a bit of sence.

[bumblebee]

Shah...do you have gainful employment or do you work for the government? If you have a job...you should probably thank a republican

[shah269]

Originally Posted by bumblebee

Shah...do you have gainful employment or do you work for the government? If you have a job...you should probably thank a republican

Your spin be week! Go back to gop training camp and come back with better spin.
Till then answer question grasshopper!

Ps
Hanging out in office handing off old folders to new hires teaching the way of the Wu, waiting to start new promoted gig in two weeks.
Still negotiating pay increase.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by bumblebee

Shah...do you have gainful employment or do you work for the government? If you have a job...you should probably thank a republican

Business is alot more successful in blue states and wages are higher. That's why we must provide welfare to red states in the form of tax redistribution. They can't support themselves.

[jiffy]

I guess if we raise taxes too much on big business they can move overseas...more than they already have.

[shah269]

Originally Posted by jiffy

I guess if we raise taxes too much on big business they can move overseas...more than they already have.

ok ok but....well this argument only holds water if you asume other countries like India and China are playing on a level playing field.
What I make in one month is what an average Indian engineer gets in a year.
The same for China. Thus there is really no reason why any buisness should be here. You just can't give them enough tax credits to make it up for the difference in income between the US and Asia. That being siad their HQ's are usually in US due to our stability. Thus why they can be taxed.

But hay nice try! It was a coherent responce.

[bumblebee]

Originally Posted by shah269

Your spin be week! Go back to gop training camp and come back with better spin.
Till then answer question grasshopper!

Ps
Hanging out in office handing off old folders to new hires teaching the way of the Wu, waiting to start new promoted gig in two weeks.
Still negotiating pay increase.

First of all you illiterate, my spin is not weak I have been a registered democrate since the 1976 election when I voted for Jimmy Carter. Actually I have always been a "DixieCrat"...Since I am talking about stuff before you were born, I understand your ignorance.

Still, you did not answer my question. Do you work for the government, or do you work for a "for profit" business?

[Trash]

Originally Posted by bumblebee

I have been a registered democrate since the 1976 election when I voted for Jimmy Carter. Actually I have always been a "DixieCrat"...Since I am talking about stuff before you were born, I understand your ignorance.

I thought the Dixiecrats switched over to the Republican party after the "Southern Strategy" was implemented and they were let down by LBJ?

[ped]

well you have to remember most people, especially republicans are parrot drones. they have locked on to a party for one or a handful of reasons. so in turn they listen to all the wingnut gasbags and will support whatever they say. and so they dont look stupid they do some very shallow research on the subject and get on a computer and yap about it. it proves we are in fact brainwashed when someone will vehemently vote against their own economic interest (the irony being the good for everyone communist-esque thoery of reaganomics)
its the same for hardcore anti-capitalist. this is one of those cases where mediocre is a good thing. capitalism has proved to drive innovation. but unregulated it has also proved to ensalve the proletariat. thats why i consider myself a capitalist but am very much pro-union. i like how republicans are anti-union but will blather on about market forces and other eco-fundimentals but be totally against labor competition. that proves my first point really well actually. you cant really be pro capitalist in the pure sense without being pro-union. otherwise you reject the concept of market forces in their basic state.

also you will get alot of republicans caught in a paradox when it comes to labor competition in terms of input/output of productivity. alot will make a claim about being payed what one is worth in production but take a ruff-neck of a dereck or a wal-mart worker (or all wal-mart workers collectively). those people as a whole generate enough money for the company to be payed at least $100,000. but they dont make that because walmart doesnt need to pay anyone that, even though they would still be making 9 figures net a year. in turning making share holder less rich, who are simply rich people to beging with that dont do anything to deserve the igh share in the first..thats the catch too. they can find depserate enough people to work for lower and no other retai chain is paying that or could afford to. in turn throwing the production/compensation theory out the window. now if its okay to pay people market competition rate like in the case stated above, why is it not okay for those people to ban together and say we are in fact worth much much more? we generate you billions every three months yet we cant afford to live on this pay rate. and those people really have no other real world option except to find a different job where nothing is better except maybe the ethical justification of not generating as much as you were previously. people arent payed what they're worth, they're payed in term of market average compensation...i.e. why unions are avery good thing to keep the labor market in check, you have to fight fire with fire. essentially not doing this is like taking all preditors out of ecosystem so all prey can have a better life or something. it will turn the economy (and is) back into a robber baron system where 99.99% of a countries wealth belongs to >.01% of the population.

[bumblebee]

Originally Posted by Trash

I thought the Dixiecrats switched over to the Republican party after the "Southern Strategy" was implemented and they were let down by LBJ?

Actually, the Dixiecrats were a result of FDR's new deal. The Dixiecrats were southern conservatives who could not vote for republicans because of Abe Lincoln...

Damn...I cannot believe the ignorance on this forum for the current events of the last 70 years...How did y'all graduate from high school when you have no knowledge of American history from 1900 to the present...Don't y'all ever talk to your grandparents???

[ped]

you wouldnt like what my grandparents had to say about southerners...

[Trash]

Originally Posted by bumblebee

Actually, the Dixiecrats were a result of FDR's new deal. The Dixiecrats were southern conservatives who could not vote for republicans because of Abe Lincoln...

Damn...I cannot believe the ignorance on this forum for the current events of the last 70 years...How did y'all graduate from high school when you have no knowledge of American history from 1900 to the present...Don't y'all ever talk to your grandparents???

"In the 1960s, the courting of white Southern Democratic voters was the basis of the "southern strategy" of the Republican Party's Presidential Campaigns. Republican Presidential Candidate Barry Goldwater carried the Deep South in 1964, despite losing in a landslide in the rest of the nation to President Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas. Johnson surmised that his advocacy behind passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would lose the South for the Democratic party and it did. The only Democratic presidential candidate after 1956 to solidly carry the Deep South was President Jimmy Carter in the 1976 election."

Dixiecrat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and Carter wasn't catering to the "Dixiecrats" by the way.