If you won't vote for OBAMA because of Wright you weren't gonna vote for him anyway. - Page 33

BigBadBoom · 07-03-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by snakesht

I said lazy people. Not disabled people. Not incapable people. You filled in the rest with words I didn't say.

I could'nt tell, you generalized.

flylooper · 07-03-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by snakesht

That's awful nice of you, same to ya.

What kind of experience am I required to have before I can unequivocally say that I don't want my tax dollars to fund someone else's existence who is doing nothing to help themselves, not because they are unable, but because they don't have to; the government will do it for them? I am well aware that many people have jobs where health care is unavailable. I am also well aware that many people rely on the government for aid because of temporary unemployment, disability, social security, etc. My generalization was not aimed at those people.

Here's the basic difference between your (and your hyper-conservative political sidekicks here) view of society and the rest of us progressives:

Your view of the world is one of "I."

Our view is one of "We"

That's it in a nutshell.

The dirty little secret is that you can't survive as an "I" person. That's the sum and substance of it all. That being the case, since your basic premise is flawed, all argument stemming from it are also flawed.

BigBadBoom · 07-03-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by flylooper

Here's the basic difference between your (and your hyper-conservative political sidekicks here) view of society and the rest of us progressives:

Your view of the world is one of "I."

Our view is one of "We"

That's it in a nutshell.

The dirty little secret is that you can't survive as an "I" person. That's the sum and substance of it all. That being the case, since your basic premise is flawed, all argument stemming from it are also flawed.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Dakota Kid · 07-03-2008, 11:32 AM

I hope all of your relish the very real prospect of paying for health insurance for 20 million illegal aliens. See, when Obama talks about 46 million "Americans" without health insurance....he includes the illegals.

You guys got no problem with that?

Gaolee · 07-03-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

I hope all of your relish the very real prospect of paying for health insurance for 20 million illegal aliens. See, when Obama talks about 46 million "Americans" without health insurance....he includes the illegals.

You guys got no problem with that?

Actually, if it lowers overall costs, nope. They have no coverage now, and if something happens to them, they end up in an emergency room just like any other uninsured person in this country. Then who pays? We do, of course. No change.

Are you suggesting we just let 'em die?

flylooper · 07-03-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

I hope all of your relish the very real prospect of paying for health insurance for 20 million illegal aliens. See, when Obama talks about 46 million "Americans" without health insurance....he includes the illegals.

You guys got no problem with that?

Really, Deek? Show us where Obama said that.

You're a real piece of work, man. I didn't know a human being can actually type with a flat line on the EEG.

snakesht · 07-03-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaolee

Are you suggesting we just let 'em die?

Nope, round 'em up and deport them.

Gaolee · 07-03-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by snakesht

Nope, round 'em up and deport them.

Before or after we stop the bleeding? Oh, and how do you propose we round 'em up? Door to door searches?

snakesht · 07-03-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaolee

Before or after we stop the bleeding? Oh, and how do you propose we round 'em up? Door to door searches?

It probably wouldn't be too hard to track down a fair number of them.

We could start by looking in the "sanctuary cities"

Or maybe we could work on solving the problem at the border and not imprison our Border Patrol agents for doing their job.

Dakota Kid · 07-03-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by snakesht

Nope, round 'em up and deport them.

At least one person here can state the obvious.

The rest of the bleeding hearts here want to take money from the rest of us to "redistribute" earnings and health care.

Dakota Kid · 07-03-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flylooper

Really, Deek? Show us where Obama said that.

You're a real piece of work, man. I didn't know a human being can actually type with a flat line on the EEG.

You are even dumber than I thought.

Dakota Kid · 07-03-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by snakesht

It probably wouldn't be too hard to track down a fair number of them.

We could start by looking in the "sanctuary cities"

Or maybe we could work on solving the problem at the border and not imprison our Border Patrol agents for doing their job.

You make way too much sense for the idiocy that slithers down here.

Gaolee · 07-03-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by snakesht

It probably wouldn't be too hard to track down a fair number of them.

We could start by looking in the "sanctuary cities"

Or maybe we could work on solving the problem at the border and not imprison our Border Patrol agents for doing their job.

1. Explain how.

2. What are the "sanctuary cities?" I haven't heard the term, nor do I know how specific cities are sanctuaries. Is it like the underground railroad, or something eles? Please explain.

3. Please provide information about Border Patrol agents being imprisoned for doing their job.

And, finally, answer- do we treat medical conditions before we dump 'em, or do we just dump 'em? Pretty specific questions. Answer specifically, please. Shotgun blasts will be dismissed just as your spineless cowardice gets dismissed.

snakesht · 07-03-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaolee

1. Explain how.

2. What are the "sanctuary cities?" I haven't heard the term, nor do I know how specific cities are sanctuaries. Is it like the underground railroad, or something eles? Please explain.

3. Please provide information about Border Patrol agents being imprisoned for doing their job.

And, finally, answer- do we treat medical conditions before we dump 'em, or do we just dump 'em? Pretty specific questions. Answer specifically, please. Shotgun blasts will be dismissed just as your spineless cowardice gets dismissed.

1. Start in the prison systems, there's more than a few in there. How about the guys that hang out in Home Depot parking lots wanting to work for the day? Do you think they are here legally? Maybe start checking around ER's. There's a lot of places to start the search.

2. Sanctuary city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3. Ignacio Ramos, Jose Compean 2 Border Patrol agents<br> face 20 years in prison

If it is life-threatening and must be treated before they are sent back, go for it. But if they have the sniffles, I hardly think that justifies them flooding the ER for free care.

county · 07-03-2008, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by snakesht
Nope, round 'em up and deport them.

Response by a moron:
At least one person here can state the obvious. The rest of the bleeding hearts here want to take money from the rest of us to "redistribute" earnings and health care.

You two are quite a pair. Have you considered that univeral health care is cheaper than "rounding them up and deporting them"?