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Old 04-27-2008, 04:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sunday, 27 April 2008


A 17-year-old Iraqi girl was murdered by her father in an honour killing after falling in love with a British soldier she met while working on an aid programme in Basra, it has been claimed.


Rand Abdel-Qader was stamped upon, suffocated and stabbed by her father, then given an unceremonious burial to emphasise her disgrace. Police released her father without charge two hours after his arrest.

"Not much can be done when we have an honour killing case," said Sergeant Ali Jabbar of Basra police. "You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws. The father has very good contacts inside the Basra government and it wasn't hard for him to be released and what he did to be forgotten."

A total of 47 young women died in honour killings in the city last year, Basra Security Committee told an investigation into Ms Abdel-Qader's case by The Observer. This is believed to be the only case of an honour killing involving a British soldier.

The MoD had no official advice for troops on how to behave with Iraqi women. The serviceman involved would not have been told that any relationship with her could put her life at risk, the paper said.

Ms Abdel-Qader, a student of English at Basra University, had struck up a friendship with a 22-year-old British infantryman known only as Paul five months before her murder in March.

She was believed to have last seen him in January, and the pair, whose relationship was innocent, only ever met while working at the aid station. The soldier was helping deliver relief to displaced families as part of his regimental duties. Ms Abdel-Qader was a volunteer worker.

On the day her father, Abdel-Qader Ali, was told of their friendship by a friend, he accused her of having an affair with a British soldier and killed her in front of his wife, Leila Hussain, and their sons.

"I screamed and called out for her two brothers so they could get their father away from her. But when he told them the reason, instead of saving her they helped him end her life," Ms Hussain said. She then left her husband and has since divorced him. She has received threats from her husband's family and is in hiding. She now works for an organisation campaigning against honour killings.
Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier - Middle East, World - The Independent
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thats a muslim society for you. religion is law, that is why it wont work in the states.
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thats a muslim society for you. religion is law, that is why it wont work in the states.
Tell that to Mr Huckabee
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Is it too late to restore Sadam?
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Tell that to Mr Huckabee
What does Mr. Huckabee have to do with this topic? I don't recall him ever telling anyone to kill their daughters in honor killings.
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey F2benny - suggest you do a little reseach on what life was like under his rule. Ever hear of killing their athletes who did not perform well? Ever hear of their rape rooms? Ever hear about what he did to his own family who were out of line? Here hear about how he maimed people who disagreed with him?

My biggest question on all of this is why is this ignored by our press? I hadn't heard about this until I signed onto SBN this AM. You'd think that would be a pretty big topic with womens & human rights organizations......
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Wow, great religion where you can legally kill your family members because you wrongfully accuse them of wrong doing. I'll pass, thanks.
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Now this WOULD be an interesting thread....
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My biggest question on all of this is why is this ignored by our press? I hadn't heard about this until I signed onto SBN this AM. You'd think that would be a pretty big topic with womens & human rights organizations......
Yup saddam did all kinds of torture that makes water boarding look like pre olympic swim team training.

Ya know I was gonna go on about how we are giving them to much reign on there own, but it occured to me, we have to many problems in this country to be trying to run another.
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Do you have a credible link for this story? I did a google and couldnt find it but I did see this one.

The only 17 year old I could find was a Kurdish girl being kicked and stoned to death for meeting a suni muslim.

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There is good reason the turks dislike the Kurds btw.
And this is not always the case, I dated a Muslim girl From Turkmenistan.
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Can we maybe liberate a few more countries?
How about.....Canada? They have oil and may have WMD's!
This is what happens when you give a man who has never been responsible for anything in his life a blank check to invade a country's based soly on the fact that said country dissed his pappy!
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