Bush is worst President in American history...

[shah269]

Let me put it this way, it's his ship, he's the captain, and ladies and gents the life boats may soon be lowered. Like it or not little baby jesus h bush screwed up and screwed up good. From how he twisted the laws of the land to torture to how his goons ransacked out legal system to make it easier for his buddies to rape the populous.
You can spin it how ever you want, and you can shout it as loud as you want, your boy king jesus h bush has nearly killed this once great nation all so that he could prove to his pappy who never showed him any love that he jesus h bush is a manly man and deserves the upmost respect and a hug.
It's a beautiful Greek tragedy, it's just a shame we are all unwitting participants.


fyi
It's estimated that the day jesus h bush walks out of office, the economy will be worse off than when he got it, our debt will be to the tune of $20k/citizen.

[jim schmidt]

Originally Posted by Wakey

While this is the general message in many of your posts, never have you benn so succinct

But I am always this accurate.

All of you mooks can say exactly, precisely what will happen if we don't do what you want, but can make no assertion about what will happen if we do do what you want?

That's a classic indicator of bullshit.

[Baldrick]

Originally Posted by jim schmidt

But I am always this accurate.

All of you mooks can say exactly, precisely what you want to believe will happen if we don't do what you want, but can make no reality supported assertion about what might possibly happen if we do do what you want?

That's a classic indicator of bullshit.

I think this is a tad more accurate, but you got the salient point across...

[jim schmidt]

Well if they properly labeled it the SWAG that it rightly is, then it wouldn't be bullshit.

[Baldrick]

The GOP leadership (in particular, though the Dems can be pretty bad, too) could never admit they don't actually know what's going to happen if they do one thing, or another. How would they get us into places like Iraq to make lots of money for their corporatist supporters?

[gospeed81]

using an indicator close to home, it looks like big oil is doing pretty well

I'm not saying they haven't worked hard for it, but they've certainly had some help

I'm not saying all that help came from bushco, but it appears he had them in mind at times

If I told you guys what kind of offers my petty (petroleum engineering) friends graduating right now are getting you guys would hit the ceiling. Not that they don't deserve it, they've studied their asses off, and are coming from one of the nations better programs, but they certainly weren't getting these kind of offers eight years ago.

I'm sure there are other market factors that stimulate such things, much like reporting $14.5B in profit per quarter is the effect of a myriad of factors. I'm just saying....and trying to say it while avoiding any grand leaps of logic.

[county]

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that President Moron hasn't been able to catch/kill the man who orchestrated the deaths of ~3000 Americans on American soil in the past seven (7) years.

(Although he has orchestrated the death of more than 3000 Americans in his "war"...war president my ass.) And hides the bodies as they are shipped home.

[BusaDave]

Originally Posted by SAHTT

I never said he didn't have any impact, only you did.

I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

[Tally Whacker]

Originally Posted by Powersurge

It is hard for me to make comments about just one President who happened to be in office at one of the worst times for the U.S. and he is looked to fix it.

How would some other person handle it? How would a Democrat handle it except for running away from the bad guys or avoid fighting them?

For the most part we aren't fighting the bad guys. OBL is living large in the Dir Valley in Pakistan, while we managed to piss off half the freaking world in a pointless and self-destructive war and enduring occupation. I can guarantee you Gore wouldn't have invaded Iraq, but he may well have done the right thing in Afghanistan, which this administration also royally fucked up.

Originally Posted by Powersurge

How would a different President make oil prices lower without being buddy buddy to some Arab.

Research into alternative and renewable energy sources comes to mind. Not a big favorite of this administration, though, is it?

Originally Posted by Powersurge

The ecomony is run by a bunch of anal retentive scaredy cat investors. As soon as a bullet is shot in an oil producing country, the oil prices rise, people panic and sell, interest rates go up and OPEC is making a 300% profit.

And who was it that started the shooting? That's right- hooray for our fucking side. Looking out for number one.

Originally Posted by Powersurge

If there was no terrorism and the rest of the world was doing fine, where Bush didn't have to make decisions that could turn out bad, then it would be so easy for everyone to call him a great President than the worst.

No, because the economy would still be in the complete tank, the Dollar would still be at record low levels, and every other initiative the Administration has had anything to do with would still have turned to shit, as has happened.
The only thing that can be identified as a complete success from the last seven years is the amazing transfer of wealth from people like you and I to the already rich and connected. 70% of the households in this nation have lost real buying power over the last seven years. Yay us.

Originally Posted by Powersurge

If some Democrat like Hillary or Obama are President and bring our troops home, they will be considered the greatest President because they brought everyone's loved one home back from Iraq, but is the problem solved? NO

No, the shitpile this administration has worked so hard to build will no doubt consume the next president. Cleaning this mess up is going to take a very long time, and I doubt that whoever gets the job will be well regarded for it.



Tally Whacker

[Tally Whacker]

Originally Posted by SuperToby

Bush isn't the only problem with our country right now. I don't think Bush did a horrible job. He didn't do the best either. Do I think we need someone new? Yes. Should it be Osama....sorry, Obama or hilaray....hell no. Maybe McCain but he's a little nuts. He is a good business man I guess. I'd like Ron Paul to have a chance at it but that's a no go.

You want Ron Paul for President and yet you call other people crazy? Get a mirror. You obviously haven't looked in one in a while.



Tally Whacker

[SAHTT]

Originally Posted by BusaDave

It's fair enough if you believe the President has no impact

I never said he didn't have any impact, you were the only one that mentioned this (I quoted it just in case you are still clueless as to what I'm referring to).

I'm more than aware of what impact the president usually does and does not have. It's the rest of these people that don't seem to get it, although it doesn't surprise me.

If only bush wasn't such a dumbass, I'd have the ferrari and job I deserve!

[BusaDave]

Originally Posted by SAHTT

I never said he didn't have any impact, you were the only one that mentioned this (I quoted it just in case you are still clueless as to what I'm referring to).

Ok, keyword here is "if". You clearly implied that the President "doesn't have 10% of the control we think he does". Whoever the hell "we" is.

I was clearly trying to provide a number of areas where this particular President has had substantial negative impact. I omitted several others, such as Cabinet appointments, rubber stamp of the Republican majority, what he has chosen to veto or more accurately NOT veto, almost total lack of accountability, expansion of Executive authority, etc.

I don't generally come on here ranting about Mr. Bush. However the occasional inference that those who believe the current administration not done a particularly good job are stupid, I find a little offensive.

It's interesting over the years the amount of blaming of other Presidents and the subsequent acrobatics to relieve blame of the current one.

[636blurr]

First off I Guess all the "bush raised the gas prices crowd" forgot Kerry wanting to raise gas prices to 4$ a gallon? Oh my how short your memory is.

Second Al Gore wanted to Invade Iraq as well or did you democrats again with your selective memory forget that was the big debate between him and bush, not IF but how it should be done.

And third. Osama was reported dead in 03 in a Egyption newspaper, this may or may not be the case, but for anyone to assume he is Hiding in a cave someplace is about as silly as it gets. He speaks perfect english and his family has strong ties to this country.

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by Desp

Umm, bad, Yes. Worst? No. I'd probably say do some research on Lincoln and then get back to us.

Wow I have been saying this for years and everyone gets pissed at me, lol glad IM not alone.