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Old 04-13-2008, 02:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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But why destroy our own forests when we can buy up SE Asia and South America's forests?
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Again things decided by people that dont realize they wipe there ass with something made from a tree.

Not me, I have to much respect for tree.
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Per Obama's speach?
It's ture. A lot of angry scared white me out there with very small minds who are very affraid of the world. We call the republicans.
Guns...fuq yeah to kill dem immagrants who want my job at the wallmart!
Guns....fuq yeah we all know Jesus was a white CRASHCAR loving republican!
Gays...fuq dem day make my pants fell all tight and stuff
Pleas the truth hurts.
Your boy king jesus h bush is destroying this once great nation of ours, selling out our collective futures just to prove to his pappy that he is a man. And you gopers and your faux news are eating his shit up like it were candy.
Funny part is that every time any one askes you how that shit tastes you throw shit fits and accuse random strangers of being terrorist commy fags! Then demande to be taken sersiously!
Obama was speaking the truth, your just clinging because reality scares you.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What do you think human life matters!
Your boy king jesus h bush has killed how many just to prove to his pappy that he is a really manly man!
Life shmife.
Hell put on a fucking rubber! Half of the problem with abortion is the fucking mans fault!
How about we find the man responsible for these unwanted babies and remove one of his testies? You know so he'll learn his lesson. What do you say? Let's be men for once and remove 100% of the blame off the shoulders of women and carry a little bit!
Fucking religion! Bunch of women hating homo's!
And if you ask me, and this is just me sepaking here, a woman can do with her body what she wants! Hell god only knows how many billons of potential babies you killed on the shower while dreaming of being spanked by that alibino prune barbra bush
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Per Obama's speach?
It's ture.

A lot of angry scared white me out there with very small minds who are very affraid of the world. We call the republicans.
Guns...fuq yeah to kill dem immagrants who want my job at the wallmart!
Guns....fuq yeah we all know Jesus was a white CRASHCAR loving republican!
Gays...fuq dem day make my pants fell all tight and stuff
Pleas the truth hurts.
Your boy king jesus h bush is destroying this once great nation of ours, selling out our collective futures just to prove to his pappy that he is a man. And you gopers and your faux news are eating his shit up like it were candy.
Funny part is that every time any one askes you how that shit tastes you throw shit fits and accuse random strangers of being terrorist commy fags! Then demande to be taken sersiously!
Obama was speaking the truth, your just clinging because reality scares you.
You're about as useless as tits on an elbow.

Not all Republicans support George W. Bush.

Sit in the corner, dumbass.
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I'm not an Obama supporter and many of us sure aren't, but don't laugh at the thought of him being our next President. He is doing very well overall throughout our liberal nation, many times doing better than Hillary and more popular and supported through the media than John McCaine.

Not sure if people actually like his politics, because he's young, want to vote for him just because they think it would be cool to have a first black president or think it's a cute goof to vote to have a President with a name that sounds like a Islamic terrorist.
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Per Obama's speach?
It's ture. A lot of angry scared white me out there with very small minds who are very affraid of the world. We call the republicans.
Guns...fuq yeah to kill dem immagrants who want my job at the wallmart!
Guns....fuq yeah we all know Jesus was a white CRASHCAR loving republican!
Gays...fuq dem day make my pants fell all tight and stuff
Pleas the truth hurts.
Your boy king jesus h bush is destroying this once great nation of ours, selling out our collective futures just to prove to his pappy that he is a man. And you gopers and your faux news are eating his shit up like it were candy.
Funny part is that every time any one askes you how that shit tastes you throw shit fits and accuse random strangers of being terrorist commy fags! Then demande to be taken sersiously!
Obama was speaking the truth, your just clinging because reality scares you.

Again, anyone that thinks Bush is the only problem with our government is a complete and total fucking waste of space.
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Again, anyone that thinks Bush is the only problem with our government is a complete and total fucking waste of space.
I haven't heard anyone say that. Nevertheless it's not much of a defense.
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He is, however, the biggest problem in the White House.
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Lots of reasons our logging industry is having problems. The main one is the federal government themselves in the form of the Forest Circus and there piss poor forest managment. Currently the vast majority of your logging is done on private land.
Klinton/gore really bit hard into the logging industry with more of there BS enviro sanctions. Bush opened some up, but needed to open alot more.
Again things decided by people that dont realize they wipe there ass with something made from a tree.
So is this why you have such a bitter viewpoint? You won't solve the building fiasco by repeating past intellectual mistakes. Bush is the reason you are where you are. Look for lots of information coming out that Bush's Secretary of HUD had lots of indicators for the mortgage meltdown and he ignored them as simply the capitalist business cycle.
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Not sure if people actually like his politics, because he's young, want to vote for him just because they think it would be cool to have a first black president or think it's a cute goof to vote to have a President with a name that sounds like a Islamic terrorist.
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His comments reflect how he really feels... you would think he is smart enough to keep them to himself, like hillary does.
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Obama Draws Fire for Comments on Small-Town America
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Hillary Clinton and John McCain both ripped into Barack Obama Friday for reportedly saying residents of small-town America “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them” out of bitterness over lost jobs.

His opponents interpreted the remarks as arrogant, but Obama stood by the statement Friday and even elaborated on the argument that many people in small towns are bitter and frustrated with the status quo in Washington.

Obama made the original comments while speaking to a group of wealthy California donors in San Francisco over the weekend. The Huffington Post quotes him specifically singling out towns in Pennsylvania, where he’s trying to woo voters and overcome Clinton’s lead in the polls before the state’s April 22 primary.

“Our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives,” he said. “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are going to regenerate and they have not.

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

The comments, which can also be heard in an audio recording later posted on the Huffington Web site, immediately became fodder for the campaigns of Clinton, Obama’s rival for the Democratic nomination, and McCain, his potential Republican challenger.

“Pennsylvanians don’t need a president who looks down on them. They need a president who stands up for them, who fights for them,” Clinton said Friday afternoon at a campaign stop in Philadelphia. She said the Pennsylvanians she’s met aren’t bitter, but “resilient” and “positive.”

McCain adviser Steve Schmidt called Obama’s statement “remarkable” and “extremely revealing.”

“It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking,” Schmidt said. “It is hard to imagine someone running for president of the United States who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

Schmidt also said it shows Obama views the people he’s trying to relate to with “contempt.”

Obama directly addressed the growing furor Friday at a campaign stop in Indiana. Many working-class people have lost jobs to overseas operations, lost their pensions, lost their health care and haven’t gotten any help from Democrats or Republicans, he said.

“And of course they’re bitter. Of course they’re frustrated,” Obama told a crowd of supporters. “You would be too — in fact many of you are, because the same thing has happened here in Indiana. … Nobody is thinking about you.”

He also said that this disillusionment with government’s inaction on economic issues makes people base their votes on other issues, such as guns, gay marriage and religion.

The response set off another round of complaints from the Clinton and McCain campaigns that Obama is out of touch with ordinary people.

Obama, who consistently leads Clinton among highly educated and wealthy voters, has tried to make up ground with middle-class America, where Clinton is strong. He has managed to score several wins in rural states like Idaho, Kansas and North Dakota.

But recent comments from him and his wife Michelle have occasionally been interpreted as too high-minded.

Michelle Obama, for instance, drew criticism in February for saying she was “proud” of her country for the first time in her adult life.


“It comes off very badly,” Democratic strategist Kirsten Powers said of Obama’s small-town America remarks. “They are things that I think in a liberal world sound totally normal, and outside of that world I don’t know that he appreciates how it sounds. And it just sounds very elitist, and it sounds like he’s looking down on people.”

Pennsylvania GOP Chairman Robert Gleason Jr. even weighed in, releasing a statement saying the comments “reveal a condescending elitism.”

Of course, Clinton would have a hard time arguing she’s just like those small-town Pennsylvania voters. She and her husband’s newly released tax returns showed they earned nearly $110 million since leaving the White House, compared with the Obamas’ meager millions earned in the same period.