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Old 04-07-2008, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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FOXNews.com - Veterans Affairs Employees Spend Billions on Government Credit Cards - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

WASHINGTON — Veterans Affairs employees last year racked up hundreds of thousands of dollars in government credit-card bills at casino and luxury hotels, movie theaters and high-end retailers such as Sharper Image and Franklin Covey — and government auditors are investigating, citing past spending abuses.

All told, VA staff charged $2.6 billion to their government credit cards.

The Associated Press, through a Freedom of Information request, obtained the VA list of 3.1 million purchases made in the 2007 budget year. The list offers a detailed look into the everyday spending at the government's second largest department.

By and large, it reveals few outward signs of questionable spending, with hundreds of purchases at prosthetic, orthopedic and other medical supply stores.

But there are multiple charges that have caught the eye of government investigators.

At least 13 purchases totaling $8,471 were charged at Sharper Image, a specialty store featuring high-tech electronics and gizmos such as robotic barking dogs. In addition, 19 charges worth $1,999.56 were made at Franklin Covey, which sells leather totes and planners geared toward corporate executives.

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Did you read the article?

Headline, in BIG BOLD FONTS!!!!

EMPLOYEES SPEND BILLIONS ON GOVERNMENT CREDIT CARDS!!!

Right wingers get all frothy at the mouth....

Article states...

" hundreds of thousands of dollars in government credit-card bills at casino and luxury hotels, movie theaters and high-end retailers such as Sharper Image and Franklin Covey — and government auditors are investigating"

So we have relatively small scale fraud being investigated by the government, but the headline... BILLIONS ON TEH VISA CARD!!!!

And to top it all off, we have..

"By and large, it reveals few outward signs of questionable spending, with hundreds of purchases at prosthetic, orthopedic and other medical supply stores..."

Which seems to me exactly where the VA aught to be spending it's money these days.

More right wing hysteria.
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Well, it is a quote from Faux News, after all...
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I can't believe anyone would be surprised that this is going on, VA staffers are about 80% wastes of space. They are rude, not helpfull they are assholes to vet's they don't care about their jobs and most of them can burn in hell.
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I can't believe anyone would be surprised that this is going on, VA staffers are about 80% wastes of space. They are rude, not helpfull they are assholes to vet's they don't care about their jobs and most of them can burn in hell.
What, exactly, is going on? You have a hundred thousand or so dollars of questionable spending out of billions? OMG!!!!

My experiences with the VA are that they are grossly understaffed for the load they are expected to carry, and that is a direct result in the funding deficit imposed on them by the Bush administration.

The VA was a dream when Bill Clinton was president.
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Questionable spending records? In the government? *Gasp*
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[The VA was a dream when Bill Clinton was president.[/quote]

Huh? It was? C'mon, Jerome, the VA has been underfunded and understaffed for decades, has it not?
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Huh? It was? C'mon, Jerome, the VA has been underfunded and understaffed for decades, has it not?[/quote]

Yes it has. But veterans could get medicine, see a doctor in a timely fashion, and get other services without the threat of being denied.

Right now there is a huge strain imposed on the VA, primarily as a result of Iraq, and VA spending has not been matched to meet it.

If you're going to have a war, you have to ensure you take care of the soldiers when they come home. That hasn't happened.
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Yes it has. But veterans could get medicine, see a doctor in a timely fashion, and get other services without the threat of being denied.

Right now there is a huge strain imposed on the VA, primarily as a result of Iraq, and VA spending has not been matched to meet it.

If you're going to have a war, you have to ensure you take care of the soldiers when they come home. That hasn't happened.[/quote]

Yeah, I agree with the additional (probably unforseen) impact the war has had on the VA...it is tremendous, and we have only seen the tip of it. The genuisses that get us into these wars don't likely think that far, hell it won't affect them or their families.

To make it worse, like you said, funding has not been increased commensurately. That is a fucking crime right there.

But IMO it wa pretty screwed up under Clinton as well...the guy that came in to run it afterward (his name escapes me right now) actually did a hell of a job streamlining it...
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I'd like to point out that as an OIF vet, I get care very quick, my anger at VA comes from seeing what Vietnam and older era Vet's have to deal with to get even the slightest amount of care.
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Gee, I remember when people bitched about how much money the government wasted with their outrageous purchasing practices.

Now they use credit cards, save a lotta money.

Do some of the people who have these credit cards abuse them, you betcha.

Just like any other business that gives employees credit cards.

The goveernment is like any other big business, lotta people, lotta problems. That comes with burearacy (sp?) not govt.
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Yes, exactly my experience as well. I have nothing bad to say about my limited dealings with the VA...
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Yes, exactly my experience as well. I have nothing bad to say about my limited dealings with the VA...

Very strong mental health program, eh?

Perhaps you shouldn't limit your dealing with them.
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Perhaps you shouldn't limit your dealing with them.

I think that means the floors only get mopped once a month in Mt V.
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