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Old 01-23-2008, 08:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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935 public statements about Iraq proven to be lies.

George W Bush, White House told 935 lies after September 11 | Herald Sun
Independent Study Finds Bush "Unequivocally" Lied U.S. into War with Iraq
The Associated Press: Study: False Statements Preceded War

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We finally have one. A President of the United States that lied while in office.

I knew it would come to this one day. Thankfully none of our past Presidents were this morally bankrupt.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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True, but irrelevant. Just because past criminals have gotten away with their crimes is no reason to let current ones off the hook.

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True, but irrelevant. Just because past criminals have gotten away with their crimes is no reason to let current ones off the hook.

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Irrelavent to your point that Georgy needs the hammer dropped on him, not irrelavent to my point that politicians lie all the time just like anyone else who is forced to talk about complex subjects with limited information while on video the entire time.

I'm not trying to defend the guy, I'm still pissed that based on my calculations I am going to have to give uncle same about 50k to pay for the war in iraq before it's all over. I'm too disgruntled to even make it much past that thought.
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Yet, he still has another year to ruin the US...
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Irrelavent to your point that Georgy needs the hammer dropped on him, not irrelavent to my point that politicians lie all the time just like anyone else who is forced to talk about complex subjects with limited information while on video the entire time.

I'm not trying to defend the guy, I'm still pissed that based on my calculations I am going to have to give uncle same about 50k to pay for the war in iraq before it's all over. I'm too disgruntled to even make it much past that thought.
They don't lie and cheat because they are "forced to talk about complex subjects with limited information while on video the entire time"; they lie and cheat because they have power and they want more power and no one ever f-ing calls them on their bullshit. Just like any other kind of criminal behavior, start holding to their oaths to "protect and defend the Constitution", impeach and/or imprison those who break that oath and commit other crimes, and you'll start seeing better behavior out of them.

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They don't lie and cheat because they are "forced to talk about complex subjects with limited information while on video the entire time"; they lie and cheat because they have power and they want more power and no one ever f-ing calls them on their bullshit. Just like any other kind of criminal behavior, start holding to their oaths to "protect and defend the Constitution", impeach and/or imprison those who break that oath and commit other crimes, and you'll start seeing better behavior out of them.

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I'm with you PhilB. In the financial world I call home, when push comes to shove people get called on their $hit. The bottom line and unfulfilled promises don't go unnoticed and excuses are rarely even worth attempting. It's a little cut throat, it's a little harsh, but if you don't get the job done you are today's afternoon news and nothing more.
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That's how it should work for our government officials and employees. Do your job, don't be corrupt, follow the Constitution, OR get your ass canned.

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Riiiiighhhhhht. Just like over 600,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq. Gotta love ol' George Soros!!

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