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Old 01-11-2008, 02:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Outrage Greets Wilde Lake High Offer to Pay Cash for Names

Look, the inmates are running the asylum..

If we could just throw more money at schools it would all be better..

By Susan DeFord
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Friday, January 11, 2008; Page B01

It was the second lunch period of the day at Wilde Lake High School in Howard County when the food began to fly.

Horseplay between a few friends escalated, and soon sandwiches, bagels, lettuce, drinks and foam trays were whizzing through the air. Two trash cans overturned, one spilling its contents. Students rushed out of the cafeteria as administrators rushed in.

No one got caught.

After two days, the culprits had not been apprehended, and Principal Restia Whitaker announced that he would give $30 in "crisp new bills" to students for each name of a perpetrator they provided.

That didn't go over well. "We were yelling. We erupted," said Alex Kolodner, a junior, describing the reaction in his physics class. "We were talking about walking out of the school."

There was no walkout after the Dec. 12 food fight, but an intense debate erupted within the Columbia school community over whether administrators should reward students for informing on misbehaving peers. Last month, the student newspaper, the Wilde Lake Paw Print, published three columns by students critical of the principal's offer.

"I find the administration's recent use of monetary incentives considerably more frightening than a food fight," wrote editor Katherine Driessen, a senior.

Rachel Whitcomb, a junior, was one of five students who filed a written complaint with the school administration hours after Whitaker's Dec. 14 announcement.

"We wanted our opinion to be heard," she said. "It was not okay to bribe us to turn in people."

Philip Soergel, a parent who complained to Howard schools administrators about the principal's offer, said: "We were aghast. I had never heard of this. Kids are getting these kinds of lessons in how to tattle on one another."

Patti Caplan, a spokeswoman for the school system, said paying students for information happens at a few Howard schools "a couple times a year." She said schools have offered rewards when working with the police in vandalism cases.

"We have no guidelines on it," she said. "It's just left up to the administrators if they feel the situation is serious enough to warrant this."

Kathryn Brod, president of the school's PTSA, said she encouraged unhappy parents to file "parent concern forms" provided online by the school system.

"This wasn't a criminal activity," Brod said of the food fight. "It was a juvenile prank."

Whitaker, in a faxed response to e-mailed questions from a reporter, said: "During an investigation, there are many different techniques that can be employed. The offering of monetary rewards in exchange for information during an investigation is just one of these techniques."

He said administrators met with students after the food fight "to look at some collaborative ways to ensure that our cafeteria and our school remain warm and inviting." He did not say whether any students had been suspended as a result of the incident or whether any students had been paid for information. Linda Long, a spokeswoman for Howard schools, said no money had been paid.

In a Dec. 19 letter to the Soergel family, Daniel J. Michaels, Howard's director of secondary administration, said offering rewards to identify miscreants who commit criminal or disruptive acts "is common in secondary schools."

But officials at neighboring school systems said they do not employ the practice.

"If it happens, it's certainly not something we would condone," said Kate Harrison, a spokeswoman for Montgomery County public schools. "We would not entice students to turn in their fellow students by offering rewards."

Maneka Wade, communications manager for Anne Arundel County schools, said, "We do not offer rewards of any kind." She said principals are not given discretion to pay students for information.

Prince George's County schools provide an anonymous tip line to phone in reports of wrongdoing, and the high schools have investigative counselors as confidential resources for students, said Tanzi West, a public information officer. But students are not paid for tips, she said.

Howard officials said they are going to take a closer look at the practice.

"What we're interested in finding out is: Has it been effective?" Caplan said. "If it has not been an effective technique, is it something we want to continue?"

Meanwhile, Wilde Lake administrators have ended a requirement -- imposed after the food fight -- that students remain seated in the cafeteria until dismissed from lunch.

And students continue to appraise the food fight's aftermath.

"It really blew up, and I think that shows how badly they handled it," said Taylor Procida, a junior. "It just made it worse."
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Not the first time where students have had to evaluate their role in citizenship, and won't be the last. Pretty soon we'll be so video monitored that it won't matter. I consider it a healthy sign that students are pushing back.
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Their job is to learn, not spend all their time telling administrators how to do their job.

That crap is destructive in the home as well as the school.

They are children!
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That's about the size of it. Sounds like a non-news story if you ask me.
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That's about the size of it. Sounds like a non-news story if you ask me.
I posted it because I see it as part of the pattern of why our schools are failing.

Administrators IMO have their hands tied by liberal activists that populate school boards.

There is a story out of Denver this morning where students are demanding maternity leave.

Whats next, in school child care?

They already have a school just for pregnant and child raising children there.
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Man Schools take Food fights seriously nowadays huh!!! It seems like my days (not that long ago) you get a slap on the wrist or indoor detention.

All the more reason to Home School or Private School..
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Man Schools take Food fights seriously nowadays huh!!! It seems like my days (not that long ago) you get a slap on the wrist or indoor detention.

All the more reason to Home School or Private School..
They simply want to punish those that did it, nowhere was what the punishment would be fleshed out.

Apparently "don't snitch" is what we want to teach our kids.

Screw order..
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They simply want to punish those that did it, nowhere was what the punishment would be fleshed out.

Apparently "don't snitch" is what we want to teach our kids.

Screw order..
Apparently what we want to teach people like John Kerry too.
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A food fight is not something I would call serious, nor an event that a fellow student should snitch on another student about.

Besides a food fight usually gets started just by a few tossing food back and forth, then it hits someone that they did not aim for and they toss something and it hits someone else and soon everyone is tossing food. I think the punishment was fine in making the students sit while eating for a month or so. Seems fair, as I am sure the event involved more then just a few after it broke out.

I love how the article tried to compare the bribes for this "Food Fight Event" to the bribes for vandilism that schools pay out or for other "SERIOUS" events which are far more serious then some kid tossing food across the cafe at another student. Hell I pulled a fire alarm once, was a mistake really (glass flexed and the button was pushed) and all I got was one day of break out of school to relax...LOL I guess that is a Private school for you.
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If it's against the rules it's against the rules. Parents apparently aren't "aghast" that their children are having a food fight. Rewards are an accepted method for getting information on crimes. I know that no one what hurt in the food fight, but at the same time, they aren't forcing anyone to rat. They are merely given an incentive. Rewards for information are given on local, state, and national levels all the time with no one up in arms.
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