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The head clerk of the New Hampshire town of Sutton has been forced to admit that Ron Paul received 31 votes yet when the final amount was transferred to a summary sheet and sent out to the media, the total was listed as zero. The fiasco throws the entire primary into doubt and could lead to a re-count.
As we reported earlier today, an entire family voted for Ron Paul in Sutton, yet when the voting map on the Politico website was posted, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero.
Vote fraud expert Bev Harris contacted the head clerk in Sutton, Jennifer Call, who was forced to admit that the 31 votes Ron Paul received were completely omitted from the final report sheet, claiming "human error" was responsible for the mistake.
Two or three votes not counted could be a plausible mistake - but 31 votes for one candidate?
"The classic method for rigging a hand count is to write the wrong number on the form," Harris told the Alex Jones Show.
"They are counting everything in public real nice, they fill out a form in public real nice and then they transfer it to another form and they call that a summary sheet and then that is the one they send in," explained Harris.
"What happened is she said they did not transfer the number correctly and put zero instead of 31 - that is unacceptable as an answer."
With 100% of precincts now reporting, the map originally listed zero votes for Ron Paul as you can see below. It has now been updated to reflect the 31 votes Paul actually received.
The remainder of the 31 people in Sutton who voted for Ron Paul need to go public immediately with the charge of vote fraud and make it known that they were cheated out of their right to vote.
Harris estimates that it could cost the Ron Paul campaign as much as $67,000 dollars for a recount, but such a move could throw the entire primary into doubt, especially in light of the fact that Barack Obama appears to have been cheated out of a win by Hillary Clinton.
Did you watch CNN's coverage last night of the primary?
Both Rudy-Give-Me-All-Your-Guns-Giuliani and Dr. Paul were tied for exactly 9% of the vote, separated by an actual reported vote count of around 20 votes.
The pie chart had McCain, Romney, Huckabee, and Giuliani all displayed with their names and respective slices, all in various shades of RED and a Rudy-sized portion that was GREY and an even small amount that was not shaded.
They didn't put Paul's name on the other 9% slice!
I'm totally convinced that the mainstream media feels threatened by Paul and will do everything and anything to stop him, even if his bid is quixotic. Which isn't even the point.
I'm not sure why with Technology why we even vote the way we do. Plus I believe voting for President should be a day off work (okay my life is a day off work but still). We all should vote on the same day, especially for primaries...that way once you vote it is done, and you know who wins.
Pointless in todays world for the runners to go state to state. I also believe there should be a dedicated channel paid for by the Government that lets all parties running debate on it, and tell the American people why they should vote for them.
I know that is all too simple and the Government does not believe we can actually handle voting for someone...thus is why you have the electoral college who really decides who becomes President.
If this continues, the 2012 votes may be cast from the rooftops.
I wonder if that would result in any hanging chads?
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I'm not sure why with Technology why we even vote the way we do. Plus I believe voting for President should be a day off work (okay my life is a day off work but still). We all should vote on the same day, especially for primaries...that way once you vote it is done, and you know who wins.
The political parties manage the primaries. There's nothing in the Constitution on how the primaries or caucuses run.
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Pointless in todays world for the runners to go state to state. I also believe there should be a dedicated channel paid for by the Government that lets all parties running debate on it, and tell the American people why they should vote for them.
First Amendment issues galore. Why should the government be more involved on how it interacts with political parties? In anything, we need less convergence between government/political parties.
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I know that is all too simple and the Government does not believe we can actually handle voting for someone...thus is why you have the electoral college who really decides who becomes President.
The whole system is outdated and needs revamped.
I actually like the electoral college. It has it's benefits and costs. Certainly one cost that I don't like is how it adversely affects minority candidates. One benefit is that it doesn't put special focus to high population areas like the east and west coasts.
I don't know if change needs to happen with the government or with the Constitution. What needs to change is the people that elect the government. They need to become more involved and move away from ignorance.
I'm not sure why with Technology why we even vote the way we do. Plus I believe voting for President should be a day off work (okay my life is a day off work but still). We all should vote on the same day, especially for primaries...that way once you vote it is done, and you know who wins.
Pointless in todays world for the runners to go state to state. I also believe there should be a dedicated channel paid for by the Government that lets all parties running debate on it, and tell the American people why they should vote for them.
I know that is all too simple and the Government does not believe we can actually handle voting for someone...thus is why you have the electoral college who really decides who becomes President.
The whole system is outdated and needs revamped.
Actually, the electoral college was a marvelous idea. The people were supposed to elect an EDUCATED electorate, who represents their values and ideas, who would then elect the president. This eleminates all of the dumb asses who vote without knowing anything of the person they are voting for, i.e.
der, he talks good so I voted for him
der, she is a woman, so I voted for her
der, he is a christian, so I voted for him
der, he is not a christian, so I voted for him
der, he is a republican, so I voted for him
der, he is a democrat, so I voted for him
etc.
Ask any of them about their candidates issues:
der, issues? WTF?
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Actually, the electoral college was a marvelous idea. The people were supposed to elect an EDUCATED electorate, who represents their values and ideas, who would then elect the president. This eleminates all of the dumb asses who vote without knowing anything of the person they are voting for...
Great points Dustin.
"Der, I voted for him because he's BFF with Oprah."
N.H. voting fraud?
