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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
So an British Creationist & a Scotish Evolutionist are at a Bar...
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when the brit hops up with a knife & screams Jesus and stabs the scot, who while dying yells Freedom*!
punchline british guy gets 5yrs & is eligible for release in 09
*freedom thats a braveheart referance btw have to be specific here cause its Old now!
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Backpacker jailed for stabbing man to death in row over God and evolution
creationism and evolution was sent to jail for five years by a judge in Australia.
Alexander York, 33, from Essex, had become involved in a bitter argument over the origins of mankind and later, in the caravan park where they were staying, the row turned to violence. Scottish backpacker Rudi Boa, 28, from Inverness, fell dying into his girlfriend's arms after being stabbed in the chest by York in January last year.
The Englishman, who pleaded not guilty to murder, was convicted of manslaughter.
Justice Michael Adams, sentencing York in the New South Wales Supreme Court in Sydney yesterday, said Mr Boa and girlfriend Gillian Brown, both biomedical scientists, had met up with York at a pub in the town of Tumut, near the caravan park where they were all staying, and a discussion about creationism escalated into a shouting match.
The Scottish couple, who were staying in Tumut in the Snowy Mountains of New South Wales, picking fruit as part of a year-long round-the-world trip, had been arguing the case of evolution, while York, also fruit picking, had asserted that humans had been created as described in the Bible.
“Although this became perhaps a little sharp-edged, it did not really amount to anything,” said the judge.
“For some reason, however, the offender's mood changed suddenly and he began to abuse Mr Boa and Miss Brown.
“There was no hint of a physical confrontation and what happened amounted to little more than a brief verbal contretemps.”
The altercation had been defused by the time the Scottish couple left the hotel. But witnesses told police that the pair had complained their night had been ruined by a "bloke who had gone mental", describing him using several derogatory terms.
The row blew up again after the Scots couple arrived back at the caravan park, when all three were quite drunk. The court heard that York, who had been making dinner, knocked a pizza box out of Miss Brown's hand outside his tent as the argument escalated, before stabbing Mr Boa with a kitchen knife.
York claimed he had lashed out in self-defence after being attacked by Mr Boa.
The court heard earlier that she had then slapped York in the face and he grabbed her by the throat and pushed her to the ground. It was then, she told the court at the earlier hearing, that she saw "something" in York's hand and heard him say he had a knife and would stab Boa.
She then saw Boa stumble back a couple of steps before he collapsed in her arms.
The judge said he had handed out a sentence at the lower end of the scale, partly because of the "accidental nature" of the stabbing.
“I do not believe that he took aim, but rather thrust out,” he said. “I think he knew that the knife was in his hand ... but he did not actually turn his mind to the potentially serious consequences of doing this.” With time already served, York will be eligible for release in January 2009.
moral: don't drink & discuss religion! especially while in a trailer park
Why can't people agree to disagree. I don't like arguing with people, you can't make them change their minds. They are going to believe what they want to. Too bad it had to end in someones death.
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Why can't people agree to disagree. I don't like arguing with people, you can't make them change their minds. They are going to believe what they want to. Too bad it had to end in someones death.
yeah...but its pretty funny that man from the peaceful religion is the first to resort to violence. I guess everything can be justified in the name of your deity
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yeah...but its pretty funny that man from the peaceful religion is the first to resort to violence. I guess everything can be justified in the name of your deity
Justifing someones death in the name of god is taking it way too far. Lets be fair.
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3 things you will never change peoples minds about:
Race
Religion
Politics
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Why is it that people jump on people assuming its their first bike...because they just joined the forum....maybe they just want to converse and ask questions...people can ride for eternity without coming here for our infinite wisdom
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It's better to learn on a 250 for all the same reasons that experts can make a 600 do so much more. The design compromises that make a sportbike so responsive in the hands of an expert also make it amplify the mistakes of a beginner.
Justifing someones death in the name of god is taking it way too far. Lets be fair.
I am being fair. Religions can justify anything as long as its for their god...including stabbing a man to death over a discussion of reality and absurdity
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I am being fair. Religions can justify anything as long as its for their god...including stabbing a man to death over a discussion of reality and absurdity
Not everyone that believes in a diety tries to justify anything as long as it's for their god. You are trying to lump everyone into the same pile. That's what I meant by being fair. It's like me saying that you have absolutely no moral character because you are an athiest. I'm sure there are some things that you know are wrong and don't do. It would not be fair of me to say something like that about you.
I don't know what god this guy believes in, but it is not the god that I know.
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Sportbikes. Squid tested, mother disapproved!
Sportbiking IS the sport of kings!!
A Knight in shining armor is just a poser.
Not everyone that believes in a diety tries to justify anything as long as it's for their god. You are trying to lump everyone into the same pile. That's what I meant by being fair. It's like me saying that you have absolutely no moral character because you are an athiest. I'm sure there are some things that you know are wrong and don't do. It would not be fair of me to say something like that about you.
I don't know what god this guy believes in, but it is not the god that I know.
But the difference is that your saying is completely wrong in every way. Infact i dare you to make some proof that there are enough athiests with no moral character to make that absurd comment.
I'm sure i can pick off alot of believers who justify anything in the name of their imagination. Hell the entire middle east is a great example.
Also, you justify the way you live in the name of your god. People justify anything in the name of their god. Sure not every religious person kills people who are more in touch with reality....but when a religious person does do it...its always justified in the name of their pathetic god(imagination)
Of course you don't know his god. Everyones imagination is different. The difference is that his god is still based around the same evil god that 75% of this country believe in.(including the god you know so well, but can't see or prove exists...you know, i know people well too...but i can prove they exist)
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I don't know what god this guy believes in, but it is not the god that I know.
To be fair though mate, belief in God is a very subjective and deeply held belief, so the God that you know will be different to everybody elses God, including the other people that may or may not attend the same Church as you.
So an British Creationist & a Scotish Evolutionist are at a Bar...
