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Old 10-31-2007, 02:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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We could speculate all day long about hand placement in a pic.

Ultimately it's who and what these people are and who and what you are that doesn't make a difference.
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This is lame. I can't believe that people have a strong opinion on this. Why not focus on their policies and strategy for change as opposed to where they "put their hand" or if they wear a pin on their lapel.
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This is lame. I can't believe that people have a strong opinion on this. Why not focus on their policies and strategy for change as opposed to where they "put their hand" or if they wear a pin on their lapel.
yeah good luck there. People always focus on irrelevant things. Afterall there is a giant group of people voting for Hilary on the basis that she is a woman. And then the people who vote on a conservative candidate because he is a traditional christian. to both of them.

and i really havent heard anything that makes Hilary exceptionally qualified. Aside from being around bill...which is nonsense.
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I am not voting for Hillary...but I do feel that she is a pragmatic woman who seems to have reasonable views on some of the important issues we are facing.

Her recent wishy-washyness in debates worries me, but its a common strategy for someone who is ahead in the polls and wants to stay there.

At least she is not a member of the Bush family....that right there is a plus.

Its a sad, sad state of affairs.
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Also...this is the second thread on this EXACT pic.

Can we merge this thread with the other one? Or maybe just close one of them?

On my own personal bias, I would rather keep this one than the one titled "Obama is a traitor".......but whatever.
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That asshat has done more for this country than most people who are not veterans.

So maybe you will consider that the things he does for this country as a Senator outweigh his freaking posture during the anthem.



Obama was a legislator in Illinois before he was elected to the US Senate.

Can you list a specific piece of legislation that Obama sponsored and introduced in Springfield or has introduced in Washington that shows that he has done anything?
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I am not voting for Hillary...but I do feel that she is a pragmatic woman who seems to have reasonable views on some of the important issues we are facing.

Her recent wishy-washyness in debates worries me, but its a common strategy for someone who is ahead in the polls and wants to stay there.

At least she is not a member of the Bush family....that right there is a plus.

Its a sad, sad state of affairs.
Well, no candidate is a member of the bush family(as far as i know)

I have seen the wishy-washyness too...but, then obama has been sorta the same.

And yes it is a sad state of affairs. I think we will be F'd regardless of who gets in. I'm not seeing too many moderates. On either side. So, do you wanna be fvcked by the liberal or conservative wang?
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Hmmm....which wang....the red or the blue.....
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and i really havent heard anything that makes Hilary exceptionally qualified. Aside from being around bill...which is nonsense.
Well, she is a reverse carpetbagger. So that's something. I know it's not much, but it's at least some experience. Being First Lady might account for something, but very little.

I like how the anti-Mitt crowd dings him for using his governorship as a spring board for his candidacy for president, but nothing is said of Hillary doing the same in New York.
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Well, she is a reverse carpetbagger. So that's something. I know it's not much, but it's at least some experience. Being First Lady might account for something, but very little.

I like how the anti-Mitt crowd dings him for using his governorship as a spring board for his candidacy for president, but nothing is said of Hillary doing the same in New York.
I dont think being first lady counts for anything. Plus, correct me if i'm wrong, but didnt she make the point that Bill would not be a part or a big part of her presidency?? I Might be swayed if he was helping and maybe stopping her from making stupid decisions.

Meh @ mitt, i see he is one of the many retards who is 'Abortion is soo wrong, but in these examples its ok to "kill kids" " . So that a woman has no control of her body, but a friggin beauracrat does. Thats insanity.
and i dont agree with the whole state law abortion thing. It just makes some states more inhospitable(sp?) to americans with different views on life.

Although i am curious to see what whoever will do with the healthcare.


oh well, this country still F'd.
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