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Default Swat Team With Fully Automatic Weapons Busts Legal Party In Utah

This happened in Utah. The party had proper permits and was legit.

Interviews with licensed security at the party.

YouTube - Utah Rave Bust: Interviews with party security

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Seriously explain to me why you need a swat team with fully automatic weapons to disperse a non-violent crowd of a legal party?
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Them people that do that dancing is sinners and deserve to go to hell. Let us pass judgement on them and punish them.
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Okay, two questions for you.

One, how do you know this is a "legit" party, other then the comments left on youtube.

Secondly, define "assaulted" I hope you're not basing that off of the video clip. For all we know the cops told them to leave and the person wanted to be a billy bad ass and told the cops to go fuck off or something. You don't know.
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What really gets me is the security people at the party that are charged with possession of a controlled substance when they directly asked the officer if they would like them to pick it up for them and hand it to them. It is not illegal for security at a party to confiscate illicit drugs and turn them into the police. That does not make them in possession of a controlled substance. I have worked directly with security at parties that were off duty officers and they do the exact same thing as the licensed security at this party.

These cops were out to teach these "ravers" a lesson.
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That was kinda messed up.......
SWAT in full camo gear WTF?
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Utah Rave Permit Details
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An article in today's Salt Lake City Weekly lays out the details of the permit flap in the Utah County rave bust of a few weeks ago. The sheriff's argument looks to be pretty thin: He anticipated (as if he had a crystal ball) the rave would exceed 12 hours which would have required an additional permit and other measures.

The promotor, on the other hand, knew his event was for less than 12 hours and planned accordingly:

[Brandon] Fullmer, who scheduled the event for a 9.5-hour period, from 9 p.m. to 6:30 a.m., secured a permit through the Utah County Health Department (UCHD). He took out a $1 million insurance policy, hired security guards, rented portable toilets, obtained a solid-waste permit and met a number of other requirements before booking out-of-state and local DJs.

Since the bust occurred only a few hours into the rave, how is the Sheriff going to establish that it would exceed 12 hours?

“I don’t think there’s any question that the sheriff misapplied the ordinance and acted improperly,” [attorney Brian] Barnard said, adding that the raid was discriminatory and an act of censorship. “If individuals break the law, punish them. But don’t assume that everyone who goes to a rap, hip-hop, or electronic music concert is a criminal.”

Barnard will be representing the promoter and the land owner in a federal civil rights lawsuit against the County.

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Ok, now what about the "assualt" part?
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We as citizens of the United States have a right to peaceful assembly and free speech. Shame on this sheriff department for trying to take away our rights.
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Parents need to be aware of the type of illegal activities that occurs at these type of gathering. (sic) --Utah County Sheriff's Press Release

"I saw about 7 people attacked (before being forced to leave). I saw two of them right in front of me. One was a guy who was walking around with a camcorder stunned at what was happening. A soldier told him to give him the camera now. The raver said no it is my camera. The soldier then proceeded to grab the camera, throw it to the ground and then began beating the kid. In the end they threw him to the ground violently an put their knee into his back while handcuffing him. All for wanting to keep his property. When I last saw him he was knocked out and unmoving.

Another girl next to me said to one of the soldiers that she didn't know how to get home as they had just arrested her friend. The soldier told her to walk home. My friend tried to grab her to bring her with us, but the soldier began yelling that she had touched him (which she hadn't). WIthin seconds, five soldiers had jumped on her and were literally beating the crap out of this innocent women. She was punched in the face, thrown to the ground, and kicked while down. All for worrying how to get home safely. She is now suing.

The soldiers proceeded to attack anyone with cameras or camcorders, obviously wanting to restrict the film that got out about it. This was not a legal attack, it was a blatant violation on our rights as American citizens. And the swat, police, politicians who authorized this, and the national guard knew this. That is why they were removing potential evidence.

We were treated as terrorists, innocent kids without weapons or even violent thoughts in their minds were manhandled, treated like terrorists, and forced to stop doing what we were by constitutional rights allowed to be doing. Our rights were completely removed from us. It was if we had visited the 1960s or communist China." --Rodan, attendee.

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"They first made their way onto the stage, grabbing people and forcing them onto the ground to handcuff them. I saw at least two people being beaten on the ground while barking, snarling dogs are held just a few feet from them. Weapons were being pointed at unarmed, peaceful civilians. A friend of mine was forced at gunpoint to put his hands on his head and turn around, because he asked if he could get his things from the tent. Tents were ripped open indiscriminately, and all belongings and bags were recklessly searched. I've heard accounts of people taking pictures, and when they refused to hand over the camera to the authorities, beaten or tasered. One sheriff said that "many people at the party had guns" and that there were "children in danger". The only guns I saw were the rifles held by soldiers, and the only children in danger were the people being wrongfully attacked by them." --Colby, attendee.

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One of the cops saw me walking that direction and ran up and grabbed me by the neck and threw me to the ground. Another guy ran up and pointed a very large, scary looking gun inches away from my head as the other cop searched my record bag.

As this was going on, I watched my friend filming people getting the shit beat out of them as he walked towards the parking lot (this is the footage that was shown on all the news stations). Two cops then proceeded to knock his camera to the ground and literally body slammed him into the dirt. All for doing nothing but filming as he was walking away. I watched in awe as I saw bewildered kids getting pushed around and huge guys with guns running around tackling people. I couldn't fucking believe it. --(Name illegible), DJ and attendee

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This next account is from Alaisha. Remember the first person in the video that's on the ground? The one in the red sweatshirt? This is her.

"Around 11:30pm or so i noticed a helicopter flying above the main stage of the event. At this point i am confused. The chopper began to come in closer to the stage with a search light focused on the crowd. I got nervous and still very confused and walked over to find my two friends I had arrived with earlier. Just as soon as i did that I looked over at my friend and asked "whats going on". That is when I was greeted by a man in full army attire, gas mask and all. He said to leave. I said what whats going on, at which point i was brutally attacked. Thrown to the ground and in the scuffle punched in the face by swat. That was not it either. I suppose i posed some a threat as another swat member rushed over to subdue me to the ground puting his knee in my back and arresting me. At that point I am screaming to a patron "whats going on?" He is just as confused as I am. At that point another swat member came over and kicked me in the leg. Let me tell you that I also only weigh 130 pounds. I had three grown men attack and beat me and throw me to ground for absolutely no reason at all. Not to mention being dragged to a van and violently being tossed in and taken to jail. Fined for resisting arrest and another outrageous charge. I do need to mention also that while this is all happening to me at the same time my two friends, a boy and girl were trying to reach out and stop them, at that point they were attacked and arrested as well."--Alaisha, attendee

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Spending a majority of my young adult life being a dj, yes I do know that the people who attend these parties are not violent people.
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Bottom line, where you there at this particular party? Yes or no. My guess is no, so what really happened we'll never know

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Well considering the ACLU is backing the promoters and land owners in court I think that they have a pretty good case. No I wasn't there. Are you seriously implying that the use of, basically a paramilitary force, to break up a nonviolent party is justified?

I can tell you what the sheriff's side of the story is. These parties are known to have drugs at them and Utah is a nice clean religious state, and they weren't having it, so they went to some extremes to scare people to never have these types of parties in Utah. I get it. Doesn't make it right and I bet they win in court.
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Well calling a SWAT team a paramilitary force really isn't applicable.

And I never said it was justified.

I said I wasn't there so I don't know the whole story so I won't make a judgement call.

Like I said in the previous post there are always 3 sides to a story.
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