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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
A)You can enter the country but you have to get sterilized.
B) You get 12 months of millitary training in how to overthrow your govermnemt, and then you get a free ride back to your country with an AK (or other cheap mass produced firearm), 1,000 rounds, and a kick in the ass. -Iran Contra Pt2
What's your opinion?
:Flame suit on:
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Greed and ignorance shall be the downfall of society
HOOVER & EISENHOWER DEPORTED MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS!
Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me. But, back during the Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of all illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work. And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican nationals! The program was called "Operation "Wetback" so that American WWII and Korean veterans had a better chance at jobs. It took 2 years, but they deported them! Now, if they could deport the illegal's back then, they can sure do it today!! If you have doubts about the accuracy of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself. Reminder. Don't forget to pay your taxes... 30 million illegal aliens are depending on you!
As a human with the same inherent rights as the rest of us, come on in.
You get no government benefits or free handouts (unless voluntarily provided by a private charity or citizen).
If you commit an act of violence, fraud, or theft, you will be punished.
Other than that, go ahead and have at it.
PhilB
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I don' think they all need to be deported , keep the ones that have good work ethic and can offer something to society. I just found the the other day here in So Cal you can be an illegal immigrant and friggin apply for welfare !! WTF is that ???
As a human with the same inherent rights as the rest of us, come on in.
You get no government benefits or free handouts (unless voluntarily provided by a private charity or citizen).
If you commit an act of violence, fraud, or theft, you will be punished.
Other than that, go ahead and have at it.
As a human with the same inherent rights as the rest of us, come on in.
You get no government benefits or free handouts (unless voluntarily provided by a private charity or citizen).
If you commit an act of violence, fraud, or theft, you will be punished.
Other than that, go ahead and have at it.
PhilB
Whoa. That makes too much sense. We can't stand for this...
Our spineless politicians have left our borders open for way too long, against this nation's best interests.
Shut down the borders until we get a grip on the situation, maybe a couple of years. Then, deal with the illegal immigrants here now, weed out the criminals and legalize the others.
Maybe allow their children or parents, but thats it. None of this "extended family" bullshit. 12 million is already way too much.
Then, the immigrants that are allowed to stay are mandated to LEARN ENGLISH!! Assimilate. Be a fucking american, not a Mexican amercian, an African American, a Cuban American, etc
If I see one more fucking Mexican flag Im going to lose my mind. The rest of us should be speaking out about this, but instead we turn away. Its not racism. Its pride. Feel free to wave your flags, just do it in that country.
There is a reason they all are trying to get HERE.
FYI:
Where I live, the hispanic population is about 70%. These are good people (for the most part). They work hard, raise their children. Most are proud to be here and are thankful for the oppurtunities this country provides.
I cant fault the illegal immigrants for being here. We have basically allowed this to happen. Employers hire them and law enforcement turns away. Our laws say "thats against the law, but if you get in, its cool).
We do need "ground up" changes to our immigration policies.
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"What? Thats no country I've ever heard of, do they speak English in What?"
Our spineless politicians have left our borders open for way too long, against this nation's best interests.
That's the problem, its not PC, they're too afraid they'll piss off their voters.
My cousin is a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army, based in El Paso TX, he works with Homeland Security, Border Patrol, and ICE. The stories he's told me about the politics down there is just insane. He's seen hundreds of immigrants walk across the border right in front of the local police, and they do NOTHING to stop them. He asked why and was told that because of the immigrant population in the area that the politicans don't push the police to act because the majority of voters are immigrants themselves and they feel that the second they lean on the police to act they will be voted out of office.
They actually schedule and post signs for protests, hundreds to thousands of illegal immigrants show up and picket....
Imagine if a terrorist organisation announced an organised protest, a thousand members of Al Qaeda showed up in one spot....
I know it's not the same, violent terrorists killing thousands of people in a few minutes. But in the end it IS the same, a decline in the welfare and quality of life of the american way.
But then if you rewind history a few hundred years, look at what my ancestors did the the REAL AMERICANS- the Native Indians... Do we really deserve anything better?
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That's the problem, its not PC, they're too afraid they'll piss off their voters.
But then if you rewind history a few hundred years, look at what my ancestors did the the REAL AMERICANS- the Native Indians... Do we really deserve anything better?
Uhhhh, yes. No one can excuse our ancestors for things they did, thats the past.
We do have a responsibility to us amercians TODAY. The politicians leave that border open on purpose with hopes that they wont alienate potential voters. Problem is that most immigrants and minorities vote Democrat for the entitlement proprams, sad fact. What pisses me off is that the Repubs are trying to get a piece of that action.
Im so sick of politicians.
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"What? Thats no country I've ever heard of, do they speak English in What?"
I know it's not the same, violent terrorists killing thousands of people in a few minutes. But in the end it IS the same, a decline in the welfare and quality of life of the american way.
Crap. It's not the same at all. (a) There's a big difference between violent intent to harm, and peaceful intent to make a better life for oneself and one's family. (b) People, all people, have the rights to travel, to work, and to speak out. And (c) immigrants do not cause or represent "a decline in the welfare and quality of life of the american way". Immigrants, just like these ones in all important ways, are how the "welfare and quality of life of the american way" got created, and is still being created. There is a thread of continuity here, in that each past wave of new immigrants faced the same exclusionary jingoistic sky-is-falling crap as today's do. But it would be nice if people grew up and quit that crap.
PhilB
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As a human with the same inherent rights as the rest of us, come on in.
You get no government benefits or free handouts (unless voluntarily provided by a private charity or citizen).
If you commit an act of violence, fraud, or theft, you will be punished.
Other than that, go ahead and have at it.
[ There is a thread of continuity here, in that each past wave of new immigrants faced the same exclusionary jingoistic sky-is-falling crap as today's do. But it would be nice if people grew up and quit that crap.
PhilB
That may be true, but at least the immigrants of the past wanted to be Americans. These new immigrants want to be Mexicans living in the USA.
That may be true, but at least the immigrants of the past wanted to be Americans. These new immigrants want to be Mexicans living in the USA.
Wrong again. The immigrants in the past congregated in their own neighborhoods, and spoke Italian or German or Polish or Yiddish, etc. Most large cities have areas now seen as quaint and touristy and called "Little Italy" or "Chinatown". These people, mostly through their children, assimilated and became Americans. Just like the Mexican immigrants are doing today. And frightened people at each of these times decried the latest wave of dirty poor immigrants and their crime rates and refusal to speak English and on and on and on, just as they do today. It's the same old recycled fear-based crap to justify a bad attitude and the shutting out of other people.
It would be nice if more of our species matured someday.
PhilB
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US Immigration Solutions?
