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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
I think they're should be options other than abortion like what we have in California where they can leave the baby at a hospital with no strings attached.
I think they're should be options other than abortion like what we have in California where they can leave the baby at a hospital with no strings attached.
Would you like to be one of those abandoned babies?
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People are so easy to point fingers at people that have abortions, but Micheal vick killed dogs when they didnt perform. Hell those dogs were a hell of alot more intelligent then a fetus!
I think they're should be options other than abortion like what we have in California where they can leave the baby at a hospital with no strings attached.
Our welfare system has enough worthless bags of flesh feeding on it without your bastard children adding to the problem.
A little different take on the subject and something to consider.
Women that have abortions usually can have only so many before there is possibility for damage to be done. I'm talking physically, and probably mentally as well.
There have been cases where there are botched abortions that have caused women to be permenently scarred and damaged and unable to reproduce. And in the worst case death during the abortion. And yes that is the chance that the woman takes. I'm just saying that it is not JUST about the fetus but the woman as well.
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A little different take on the subject and something to consider.
Women that have abortions usually can have only so many before there is possibility for damage to be done. I'm talking physically, and probably mentally as well.
There have been cases where there are botched abortions that have caused women to be permenently scarred and damaged and unable to reproduce. And in the worst case death during the abortion. And yes that is the chance that the woman takes. I'm just saying that it is not JUST about the fetus but the woman as well.
The same can be said for a women giving birth. There are risks in every single medical procedure. Thats just life.
IMO day after pills would be the best solution, but if a woman doesnt take it, then she should have every right to go get that little parasite sucked out. Afterall, its her life. Not yours.
ZQ, I have to opologize for my rant on the other thread...too much to drink and too little thought.
Ok, as far as abortion goes, I have made a few observations. First, as you can probably tell is that I dont support "the right to abortion". Howeverr, I do realize that there are situations like rape, incest, or a life threatening condition for the mother.
That being said, those three situations account for a very small percentage of the abortions every year. The rest are all from irresponsible people who dont want the "inconvenience" of a child.
Look, there are plenty of loving people out there who CANT have children. Adoption is always a better alternative to just killing an innocent child. Yes, CHILD.
The argument that a fetus is just cells until it takes a breath is complete bullshit. That heart is beating and it is breathing oxygen through its mother. Also, alot of those abortions happen when, if that baby were born, WOULD breath on its own and would survive.
Religious...what fucking differnce does it make if someone believes there is a higher power vs believing that abortion is just morraly wrong. Please, stop taking swipes at a belief simply because YOU cant perceive something of greater power or importance that yourself.
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ZQ, I have to opologize for my rant on the other thread...too much to drink and too little thought.
Ok, as far as abortion goes, I have made a few observations. First, as you can probably tell is that I dont support "the right to abortion". Howeverr, I do realize that there are situations like rape, incest, or a life threatening condition for the mother.
That being said, those three situations account for a very small percentage of the abortions every year. The rest are all from irresponsible people who dont want the "inconvenience" of a child.
Look, there are plenty of loving people out there who CANT have children. Adoption is always a better alternative to just killing an innocent child. Yes, CHILD.
The argument that a fetus is just cells until it takes a breath is complete bullshit. That heart is beating and it is breathing oxygen through its mother. Also, alot of those abortions happen when, if that baby were born, WOULD breath on its own and would survive.
Religious...what fucking differnce does it make if someone believes there is a higher power vs believing that abortion is just morraly wrong. Please, stop taking swipes at a belief simply because YOU cant perceive something of greater power or importance that yourself.
I completely disagree. Its more responsible to have an abortion then to pop out a kid and add to the poverty in our society. Its rather irresponsible to just have a kid when your not financially ready. You will end up getting on welfare and raising everyone's taxes over some little fetus that should have been aborted in the first place.
There will always be people like you, so there will always be kids for adoption. Let people live their life how they please.
And its quite hyprocritical(that a word?) to say its so wrong to kill kids and blah blah blah, but then just flat out say its ok to do so when rape/incest/life threatening condition.
How long until you expand that to include kids who are mentally handi-cap?? Afterall those rape/incest/life threatening kids could be born perfectly have a better chance of becoming members of society then the kid who is handicap.
Religion does make a difference. Thats why so many of these anti-abortion groups are religious. They feel that their god dillusion supercedes the world and that everyone has to live by those rules. Its not even a matter of percieving with me. I was agnostic for many years of my life. But when i got older and had taken steps to make my life better. I had a chance to weigh the concept of god. God is a joke. Especially in organized religion Because it is always "all powerful and all knowing" yet never does a damn thing.
The sick thing nowadays is that so many people "thank god" for things they shouldnt. Some guy luckly beats cancer and Thanks god and suddenly becomes ultra religious. When he owes his life to the doctor. Using "god" to discredit the doctor when the doctor has done more for that person then the idea of god ever could.
From a policy standpoint, I'm actually pro-choice. In fact, that's the ethos that is my life, you choose, it's your life. Why should I have any input on how you establish YOUR family? I wouldn't expect that you dictate mine either. I don't pass judgment on those that do. I have one close family member and one colleague that has had an abortion. I don't think any differently of them after they told me. In fact, I think I only became more supportive in their time of emotional need.
Personally, I'm pro-life, but that's a decision between my fiancee and I both agree on. Should we become pregnant, we consider the life of the baby to start at conception. But other's will consider this at a different time, perhaps during the mother's labor, perhaps when the umbilical cord is severed, perhaps when the placenta is passed, whatever. Science sometimes provides a more ambiguous perspective that can be interpreted differently, depending on the individual.
And its quite hyprocritical(that a word?) to say its so wrong to kill kids and blah blah blah, but then just flat out say its ok to do so when rape/incest/life threatening condition.
Abortion?
Using "god" to discredit the doctor when the doctor has done more for that person then the idea of god ever could.
