Officer assaults couple for hanging a flag upside down

[PhilB]

Originally Posted by Czolgosz

Taking technicalities to its logical extent Occifer is supposed to be doing all that shit. It just so happens that he seems like a decent guy and not out to harass every Tom, Dick, and Hairy.

But its those technical bullshit laws that, and maybe we don't get called on 'em everyday, if some dickhead wants to be a pain in the ass he can pull me over or stop me in public for extremely stupid shit. Then it turns into complete irritation w/ the officer who's present by the citizen being beaten over the head and resulting in story's like this one.

These kinds of things are contrary to where we should be.

Agreed.

PhilB

[OFFICER737]

Originally Posted by PhilB

OK. Thanks. That does make me feel better, at least with regard to you. And worse with regard to the jerks who force you to harass people over minor shit, and will discipline you if you don't. That's bullshit.

Thanks for clarifying.

PhilB

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I have explained the situation to people when I am forced to do this silly stuff and for the most part, they are cool with me about it...even when I have had to arrest people on technicalities. I can't give people legal advice on the scene but in the idle chit chat I can say what I would do in the same siutation (hint, hint, nudge, nudge)

[OFFICER737]

Originally Posted by Czolgosz

Taking technicalities to its logical extent Occifer is supposed to be doing all that shit. It just so happens that he seems like a decent guy and not out to harass every Tom, Dick, and Hairy.

But its those technical bullshit laws that, and maybe we don't get called on 'em everyday, if some dickhead wants to be a pain in the ass he can pull me over or stop me in public for extremely stupid shit. Then it turns into complete irritation w/ the officer who's present by the citizen being beaten over the head and resulting in story's like this one.

These kinds of things are contrary to where we should be.

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I agree with ya man! Twice a year we get new laws and updates to older laws given to us and you should see the looks on the officer's faces sitting around reading them. More than once I have looked at my Sgt. and said "what the fuck?? they seriously want me to enforce this???"

[PhilB]

Originally Posted by OFFICER737

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I agree with ya man! Twice a year we get new laws and updates to older laws given to us and you should see the looks on the officer's faces sitting around reading them. More than once I have looked at my Sgt. and said "what the fuck?? they seriously want me to enforce this???"

This is an inherent problem with having full time legislators; they justify their existience by finding (or creating) things to legislate. Most places would be *much* better off with part-time legislators. One of the ways New Hampshire has maintained a relatively high level of freedom is by having the state House meet only 2 weeks per year, and paying them only $100 per year. Limits the damage, and makes it not attractive/rewarding enough to the power-hungry.

PhilB

[OFFICER737]

Originally Posted by PhilB

This is an inherent problem with having full time legislators; they justify their existience by finding (or creating) things to legislate. Most places would be *much* better off with part-time legislators. One of the ways New Hampshire has maintained a relatively high level of freedom is by having the state House meet only 2 weeks per year, and paying them only $100 per year. Limits the damage, and makes it not attractive/rewarding enough to the power-hungry.

PhilB

Hey I like that idea!!

[Czolgosz]

Originally Posted by OFFICER737

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I agree with ya man! Twice a year we get new laws and updates to older laws given to us and you should see the looks on the officer's faces sitting around reading them. More than once I have looked at my Sgt. and said "what the fuck?? they seriously want me to enforce this???"

We know, man.

[edit] It just gets lost in discussion cuz you're "the man." Not the good "the man" but the bad "the man."

[Czolgosz]

Originally Posted by PhilB

This is an inherent problem with having full time legislators; they justify their existience by finding (or creating) things to legislate. Most places would be *much* better off with part-time legislators. One of the ways New Hampshire has maintained a relatively high level of freedom is by having the state House meet only 2 weeks per year, and paying them only $100 per year. Limits the damage, and makes it not attractive/rewarding enough to the power-hungry.

PhilB

Not to get off topic, but Phil, the NH constitution looks pretty nice. I read a little bit earlier today. I was gonna ask you how far from their constitution are they, but if they're only allowed two weeks a year I imagine they are on target.

And I agree 100% that if legislation wasn't a fulltime job we wouldn't have all the bullshit that we do and I could buy my DPMS .308 here and now.

[PhilB]

Originally Posted by Czolgosz

Not to get off topic, but Phil, the NH constitution looks pretty nice. I read a little bit earlier today. I was gonna ask you how far from their constitution are they, but if they're only allowed two weeks a year I imagine they are on target.

And I agree 100% that if legislation wasn't a fulltime job we wouldn't have all the bullshit that we do and I could buy my DPMS .308 here and now.

They're not perfect, but they're better than most places. And the FSP aims to bring the state back into *full* compliance with its own Constitution, as well as with the U.S. Constitution.

PhilB