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Woman dies in ER lobby, after being ignored, 911 didn't care
beat Thunderace1997 to this one and just wanted to say this really isn't about COPS even though they're involved in this News story!
Its about Hospitals
hopefully i won't get banned for this one..?seemed ok for msnbc and the nation called America though?
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Ahh Beauraucracy. interesting but sad read.
Cliffs:
-woman pukes blood in ER lobby for 45mins, seems to be ignored.
-husband & bystandard seperately call 911 to ask for help; ambulance to a better hospital?
-911 operator argues says no its not an emergency
-cops show up, arrest: puking blood lady
-she dies as she's being wheeled out by the cops.
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Woman dies in ER lobby as 911 refuses to help
Tapes show operators ignored pleas to send ambulance to L.A. hospital
LOS ANGELES - A woman who lay bleeding on the emergency room floor of a troubled inner-city hospital died after 911 dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility, newly released tapes of the emergency calls reveal.
Edith Isabel Rodriguez, 43, died of a perforated bowel on May 9 at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.
Relatives said Rodriguez was bleeding from the mouth and writhing in pain for 45 minutes while she was at a hospital waiting area. Experts have said she could have survived had she been treated early enough.
County and state authorities are now investigating Rodriguez’s death. Relatives reported she died as police were wheeling her out of the hospital after the officers they had asked to help Rodriguez arrested her instead on a parole violation. Sheriff’s Department spokesman Duane Allen said Wednesday that the investigation is ongoing.
In the recordings of two 911 calls that day, first obtained by the Los Angeles Times under a California Public Records Act request, callers pleaded for help for Rodriguez but were referred to hospital staff instead.
“I’m in the emergency room. My wife is dying and the nurses don’t want to help her out,” Rodriguez’s boyfriend, Jose Prado, is heard saying in Spanish through an interpreter on the tapes.
“What’s wrong with her?” a female dispatcher asked.
“She’s vomiting blood,” Prado said.
“OK, and why aren’t they helping her?” the dispatcher asked.
‘They’re just watching her’
“They’re watching her there and they’re not doing anything. They’re just watching her,” Prado said.
The dispatcher told Prado to contact a doctor and then said paramedics wouldn’t pick her up because she was already in a hospital. She later told him to contact county police officers at a security desk.
A second 911 call was placed eight minutes later by a bystander who requested that an ambulance be sent to take Rodriguez to another hospital for care.
“She’s definitely sick and there’s a guy that’s ignoring her,” the woman told a male dispatcher.
During the call, the dispatcher argued with the woman over whether there really was an emergency.
“I cannot do anything for you for the quality of the hospital. ... It is not an emergency. It is not an emergency ma’am,” he said.
“You’re not here to see how they’re treating her,” the woman replied.
The dispatcher refused to call paramedics and told the woman that she should contact hospital supervisors “and let them know” if she is unhappy.
‘May God strike you too’
“May God strike you too for acting the way you just acted,” the woman said finally.
“No, negative ma’am, you’re the one,” he said.
The incident was the latest high-profile lapse at King-Harbor, formerly known as King/Drew. The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors is investigating claims of recent patient care breakdowns, including Rodriguez’s case.
Federal inspectors last week said emergency room patients were in “immediate jeopardy” of harm or death, and King-Harbor was given 23 days to shape up or risk losing federal funding.
‘Fundamentally a failure of caring’
Dr. Bruce Chernof, director of the county Department of Health Services, which oversees the facility, has called Rodriguez’s death “inexcusable” and said it was “important to understand that this was fundamentally a failure of caring.” He has said conditions are improving, though.
A call Wednesday seeking comment about the 911 tapes from the department’s communications office, which handles information about the hospital, was not immediately returned.
Dr. Roger Peeks, the chief medical officer at the hospital, was placed on “ordered absence” Monday, the Times reported. Health officials declined to elaborate, saying it was a personnel matter. Dr. Robert Splawn, chief medical officer for the health department, was named interim chief medical officer, the newspaper said.
that hospital is in for a world of hurt. I suspect the lady's husband is being swamped with lawyers calling.
that guy and the rest of his family will never have to work again I bet.
king drew hospital is the shittiest hospital ever, so many bad stories from them. They are suppose to be losing their funding very soon. Idk why people protested to keep it open.
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The hospital can just close their doors now its over, they are going to take a beating on this. I am in the medical field and know that ERs and hospitals in general can become very busy but to ignore someone for 45 minutes as they vomit blood is inexcusable.
Sad part was I believe 911 was not able to do much, I'm sure they get people all the time complaining about non emergency things making it sound more serious then what it is.
I agree with the 911 person. You have problems go f'ing start to get some supervisors. If I was the husband I would of been giving a few ER people a beating. Or walking my wife over to some ER person and let her vomit blood on them...maybe then they get help.
I have no idea how ER's in the inner city are laid out, the places around me you can walk anywhere. I bet you could walk your wife who is vomiting into a non ER area office and once that Doctor sees the person he would have to help or risk getting sued later on himself.
Sad part is, they will be sueing the Hospital, Cops, 911 Dispatchers, and the city. Like it was pointed out by another person they won't be working ever again in 5 years.
Holy Shit! You mean the poor are receiving a lower standard of medical attention in this country?????
That's CRAZINESS!!!!
I wonder how the cops are responsible for this?
The sarcasm is great. The cops are partially responsible because they are part of the city's emergency response service, and they failed to take the situation as an emergency.
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Originally Posted by modette
Sad part was I believe 911 was not able to do much, I'm sure they get people all the time complaining about non emergency things making it sound more serious then what it is.
I agree with the 911 person. You have problems go f'ing start to get some supervisors. If I was the husband I would of been giving a few ER people a beating. Or walking my wife over to some ER person and let her vomit blood on them...maybe then they get help.
I have no idea how ER's in the inner city are laid out, the places around me you can walk anywhere. I bet you could walk your wife who is vomiting into a non ER area office and once that Doctor sees the person he would have to help or risk getting sued later on himself.
Sad part is, they will be sueing the Hospital, Cops, 911 Dispatchers, and the city. Like it was pointed out by another person they won't be working ever again in 5 years.
How was any part of this a non-emergency? Generally when you go to the hospital to get immediate medical care, how prepared are you to go and talk with a supervisor about the lack of care for your severe and critical bleeding? Threatening or beating people for immediate care will only lead to yourself being prosecuted.
The real sad part is, is that the lady died because between the hospital, the cops, and the 911 dispatchers, no one elevated the situation enough to have it taken care of. I guess some people think that once you are in the Emergency Room waiting area, that it is no longer an emergency.
Next time one of you lop your hand off, or are puking blood and bile, you try not feeling as though it may be a slight emergency.
I have never had an issue even similiar to this with police, emt's, or dispatch. But I would say that has something to do with my location.
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The sarcasm is great. The cops are partially responsible because they are part of the city's emergency response service, and they failed to take the situation as an emergency.
First off, 911 operators are not cops. You do know that, right?
Secondly, the HOSPITAL refused to treat it as an emergency. The 911 operator is not a doctor. If you call 911 from inside a hospital and say that the hospital is refusing to treat them, you're expecting a 911 operator to make a medical judgment?
What should the emergency operator do? Send paramedics to a hospital? Sorry, the hospital is TOTALLY at fault here. The poor receive shit care and will continue to receive shit medical care as long as we underfund county hospitals, make medical care available to the few and not the many and let insurance companies dictate treatment.
Not the 911 operator's fault. Look at your government.
Woman dies in ER lobby, after being ignored, 911 didn't care
Dam Munky!
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