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Old 02-09-2007, 08:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Report Says Pentagon Manipulated Intel
Report depicts Pentagon that purposely manipulated intelligence before U.S. invasion of Iraq

WASHINGTON, Feb. 9, 2007
By ROBERT BURNS AP Military Writer
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(AP) A "very damning" report by the Defense Department's inspector general depicts a Pentagon that purposely manipulated intelligence in an effort to link Saddam Hussein to al-Qaida in the runup to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, says the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"That was the argument that was used to make the sale to the American people about the need to go to war," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich. He said the Pentagon's work, "which was wrong, which was distorted, which was inappropriate ... is something which is highly disturbing."

The investigation by acting inspector general Thomas F. Gimble found that prewar intelligence work at the Pentagon, including a contention that the CIA had underplayed the likelihood of an al-Qaida connection, was inappropriate but not illegal. The report was to be presented to Levin's panel at a hearing Friday.

The report found that former Pentagon policy chief Douglas J. Feith had not engaged in illegal activities through the creation of special offices to review intelligence. Some Democrats also have contended that Feith misled Congress about the basis of the administration's assertions on the threat posed by Iraq, but the Pentagon investigation did not support that. Two people familiar with the findings discussed the main points and some details Thursday on condition they not be identified.

Levin has asserted that President Bush took the country to war in Iraq based in part on intelligence assessments _ some shaped by Feith's office _ that were off base and did not fully reflect the views of the intelligence community.

In a telephone interview Thursday, Levin said the IG report is "very damning" and shows a Pentagon policy shop trying to shape intelligence to prove a link between al-Qaida and Saddam.

Levin in September 2005 had asked the inspector general to determine whether Feith's offices' activities were appropriate, and if not, what remedies should be pursued.

The 2004 report from the Sept. 11 commission found no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terror organization before the U.S. invasion.

Asked to comment on the IG's findings, Feith said in a telephone interview that he had not seen the report but was pleased to hear that it concluded his office's activities were neither illegal nor unauthorized. He took strong issue, however, with the IG's finding that some activities had been "inappropriate."

"The policy office has been smeared for years by allegations that its pre-Iraq-war work was somehow 'unlawful' or 'unauthorized' and that some information it gave to congressional committees was deceptive or misleading," Feith said.

Feith called "bizarre" the inspector general's conclusion that some intelligence activities by the Office of Special Plans, which was created while Feith served as the undersecretary of defense for policy _ the top policy position under Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld _ were inappropriate but not unauthorized.

"Clearly, the inspector general's office was willing to challenge the policy office and even stretch some points to be able to criticize it," Feith said, adding that he felt this amounted to subjective "quibbling" by the IG.

Feith left his Pentagon post in August 2005 and now teaches at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. He has maintained throughout the controversy over the role of the Office of Special Plans, as well as other small groups that were created after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, that their intelligence activities were prudent, authorized and useful in challenging some of the intelligence analysis of the CIA.

At the center of the prewar intelligence controversy was the work of a small number of Pentagon officials from Feith's office and the office of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz who reviewed CIA intelligence analyses and put together their own report. When they briefed Rumsfeld on their report in August 2002 _ a period when Vice President Dick Cheney and other administration officials were ratcheting up their warnings about the gravity of the Iraq threat _ Rumsfeld directed them to also brief CIA Director George Tenet.

Their presentation, which included assertions about links between al-Qaida and the Iraqi government, contained a criticism that the intelligence community was ignoring or underplaying its own raw reports on such potential links.

The controversy has simmered for several years. The Senate Intelligence Committee included the Office of Special Plans in its investigation into the prewar intelligence on Iraq, but the committee did not finish that portion of its work when it released the first part of its findings in July 2004.


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Old 02-09-2007, 08:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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But, I'm just a Bush hater, that's all. I was just saying that as a disgruntled Democrat, and not as a sane citizen of the U.S..
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i cant wait to see the shit slinging in 10 years. i have a feeling this is only the tip of the iceberg...
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from the very beginning, the iraq war was destined to be a black eye on the united states for decades. da Nile ain't just a river in egypt, and it's drying up awfully fast folks.
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im sorta wonderin now if the pentagon latest report about iran is skewed as well....
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Here's what I've recently learned about Iran:

They are allowed to enrich uranium under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty for use in nuclear power stations, and the US has no reason to prevent them from doing so.

They are a long way away from enriching weapons-grade plutonium.

Weapons inspectors have not been blocked from doing their jobs.

However, we can probably expect the Bush administration to do something stupid. There's plenty of time left for that to happen.
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Placing blame on a figure head like Bush is the funniest part of the argument. I have no idea who is in charge but it's not him and the war on Iran is the next big thing.
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its a cover up for what is going on in Afganistan
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they admin says iran is fueling the iraqi fire, and they are cleared to begin tactical strikes at weapons shipment depots destined for iraq. if this is true, wre getting into a bigger war and its justified. they took our embassy, it'll finally come back to haunt 'em. if they are not fueling the regious strife and we start bombing them, the international community would have no options other than start rallying against us.

we know the iraqi intelligence was no good, and we seem to be placing a hefty bet that the iranian intelligence is as well.
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i just want to know when we're gonna 'liberate' venzuela.
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You should let him go. I mean, he is the President and all, why should we expect him to do his job?

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Weve all known it was bullshit for awhile now.

The thing is...............we need to stop dwelling on that shit and act on it.

Until the people of this country fucking wake up and take their country back from greedy, manipulative, backhanded politicians..........the people will be the ones to suffer.

Its just like what was going on in Iran with Diane Sawyer...............people chanting "Death to America!" and in reality its "Death to American Government!"

No one wants a war............they just want our crooked assed politicians to leave them the fuck alone.

You know we have probably 50 times the amount of nuclear weapons of any other country...............we are still the big kids on the block. With todays technology and intelligence we can keep people from building nukes...........without bullshit wars for oil and power.
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