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Old 08-24-2006, 04:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Usually, I NEVER agree with KingCobra. but he is right about the federal reserve bank.
Most people have NEVER read the constitution or bill of rights, and their respective amendments. One of the amendments (I forget the number) specifically PROHIBITS compulsory taxes. Meaning that the government has no right to collect taxes from you. You pay taxes every year to the Federal Reserve Bank, which as a private entity, is allowed to enforce tax collection. The Federal Reserve then lends the money to the government, and charges interest on it.
I have done the research on it, and I didnt believe it before I read it. But once you look into it, You're like "what the fuck??"
You pay taxes to the IRS.
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Old 08-24-2006, 04:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Usually, I NEVER agree with KingCobra. but he is right about the federal reserve bank.
Most people have NEVER read the constitution or bill of rights, and their respective amendments. One of the amendments (I forget the number) specifically PROHIBITS compulsory taxes. Meaning that the government has no right to collect taxes from you. You pay taxes every year to the Federal Reserve Bank, which as a private entity, is allowed to enforce tax collection. The Federal Reserve then lends the money to the government, and charges interest on it.
I have done the research on it, and I didnt believe it before I read it. But once you look into it, You're like "what the fuck??"
Here is the way it goes. The US dollar, which is the Fed's fictitous paper money (Federal Reserve Note) is created out of thin air and loaned to US government where it is held in the US Treasury. Of course this has to be paid back with interest since the Fed is a for profit institution. The government takes money loaned to it and spends it on its massive military budget, wars, payouts to Halliburton and similar corporate cronies, and to a significantly lesser degree for social services. Since the principle and interest has to be paid back to the Fed, the US government turns the taxation corkscrew tighter and tighter on American taxpayers, while giving them less and less government services. The IRS, under the department of the US Treasury, is charged with collecting those taxes to pay these banks back. That makes the IRS a de facto collection agency for the Federal Reserve. It is important to keep squarely in mind that NOTHING was loaned out to the US government to begin with, it was all created out of thin air. So in other words, you as a taxpayer owe nothing. Yet you are still expected to carry the heavy load of debt for money you had no say in borrowing in the first place, for a fictitous debt that in actuality doesn't even exist.
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If all of this is true and doesn't piss you off, I don't know what will.

This definitely requires more research.

Keep it up guys, I'll be researching too.
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That's why this upcoming NESARA announcement is so important. The only way to have a government accountable to the people is if a law is passed which bans the Federal Reserve system. Otherwise there can be no reform. We've got to start over again.
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A good place to start the research is to see Aaron Russo's 'America: Freedom to Fascism' film.

Here's are the trailers... http://www.freedomtofascism.com/index.html
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That's why this upcoming NESARA announcement is so important. The only way to have a government accountable to the people is if a law is passed which bans the Federal Reserve system. Otherwise there can be no reform. We've got to start over again.
While all this federal reserve racket makes a whole lot of sense. I'll ask you to please, keep the aliens out of this thread.
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NESARA and aliens are two different things Mr. Clown.
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I bet you still believe that 9/11 is a part of a huge government conspiracy too?
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NESARA and aliens are two different things Mr. Clown.
You call me a clown but you're the one making an ass out of yourself. I'll give you some advice, in order to prove a point you have to be consistent and never, ever contradict yourself.

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Just so you know, once the official NESARA announcement takes place, and the humans from outer space make themselves visible, the government will most likely try to portray our brothers and sisters as a threat, as if they were here to conquer our planet; an "alien invasion". Hopefully at that point you all will no longer be holding on to your outdated belief systems and be able to see through the propaganda.
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They have to do with each other somewhat but, strictly speaking, NESARA is a product of court cases made against the Federal Government and signed into law, which is now under gag order. Aliens are only here to make sure the transition moves smoothly without senseless retaliation from the government on us during their last days in power.
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So they are not two different things. In your eyes (and of those nutcase websites like flyingdoveofsalvation.com or whatever) NESARA and the aliens are related, that doesn't sound like two completely different subjects to me.
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You pay taxes to the IRS.
The IRS is simply the collection service of the Federal Reserve..
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i am waiting to hear from fargin on this one, maybe he has the same opinion and does not want to admit it. but that does blow ass if it is true.
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