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Old 08-22-2006, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm curious about what people here think of this guy...

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Old 08-22-2006, 10:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He should've known better to offer his opinion through a army email address.
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He should've known better to offer his opinion through a army email address.

That and the fact he's an Intelligence Analyst. SHould know you spout off about consipracys espcially something like that you're gonna get nailed on it.

The only odd thing about it is he got nailed the next day. So either the person he responded too turned him in or he CC'd someone so they would read it.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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All he said was that he thought there should be an independent investigation and expressed doubt about the official story. That doesn't make you a "conspiracy theorist". What's more I can't help but wonder what kind of intelligence comes out of intelligence-centric organizations that engages in witch hunts against their independent thinkers. Obviously there has to be independent strain of thought in intelligence research. If you have a bunch of robotic thinkers who regularly regurgitate shit printed in USA Today, then what's the point? That they would do this to him really doesn't really inspire confidence in any intelligence report they produce, and as far as I am concerned indicates to me that there is really no hope in matters of national security that rely on the intelligence produced by these organizations. Garbage In Garbage Out. Why not just read the newspaper or watch Fox news to get intelligence? Intelligence drawn up by sycophantic Percy Wetmores and the braindead who never ask serious hard questions is garbage and a waste of taxpayer money.
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How long have you been involved in the intelligence business? Oh, what's that? Never?

Doesn't really matter if we should just read off FOX or CNN where do you think they get their info from? "Sources" leaking it to the press. True story. A guy was briefing during the morning brief a key movement to the head guy, no shit...an hour later the EXACT SAME INFO was on CNN...gee wonder how they found that out.

Here's another one for you bugeyed, what do you think of this one? CLICKY

EDIT: The reason I posted that story up was to prove that you just have to becareful what you say when you are in the intelligence business. Trying to showoff what they think they know. Personally I'm glad her blog was taken down...i hated reading it in 3rd person.
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I'm in the intelligence "business" everyday, I read everything I can that I can reasonably trust. I HAVE to know what is going on, it's an addiction. And of course you know I trust very little that comes out of mainstream media sources, that was learned through hard experience. I know enough to know that when that asshole Jim Kramer on CNBC tells you to buy, you damn well better sell. Same goes for every other talking head on the mainstream news. When they tell you Saddam had WMD you should already have enough sense to know, based on the interests behind them, that you are being fed BS. When you see a building collapse at free fall speed with no resistance straight down into its own footprint, you don't need anyone to tell you anything, common sense and intuition should be enough to spark you suspicion about it. It might interest you to know that I already read that article long before you linked to it, and yes I did find it interesting. That unfortunate lady is not an intelligence analyst, she is a software contractor, which probably also explains why she had no idea of what she was getting into when she started discussing what she did in her blog. The other guy, the military analyst in the article I linked, he probably knew damn well what he was getting into but just couldn't hold it back anymore. I understand some people have no problem being dishonest about reality and are perfectly happy living in a imaginary fishbowl concocted by liars, but it is very hard for people of reasonable intelligence to be dishonest with themselves and others for years on end. That guy probably couldn't hold it back anymore.
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easy now Bugeyed...just think of where we would be today without intelligence such as shown:

Now even though no WMD's were ever found, that still doesn't mean that Saddam wasn't a bad guy.
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"business" everyday huh?

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Well, at least most people still have freedom of speech.

And this picture is of a MDU (mobile distillery unit for you non "in-the-know" people) where Saddam makes his beer, thats the only reason why fermentation exists
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Shut up about the whole World Trade Center thing. That's total bullshit. Anybody will four functioning brain cells knows what really happened. You got put in your place by an engineer in a previous thread, so sour grapes.
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Shut up about the whole World Trade Center thing. That's total bullshit. Anybody will four functioning brain cells knows what really happened. You got put in your place by an engineer in a previous thread, so sour grapes.
Oh did I? Still going to try and tell me that aviation fuel burns in ponds? That fire really brought those buildings down? I find it comical that the same people who want to tell me that fire burning in fuel ponds (haha) was only hot enought to weaken steel, not melt it, then they turn around and try to argue with their stupid pancake theory. The WTC towers (including WTC 7 which wasn't hit by anything at all) fell at a free fall rate with absolutely no resistance. What happened to the weakened steel argument, don't you think this steel which was claimed to be strong enough to resist this so-called inferno would also be strong enough to have resisted the collapse? Of course it would. But we can't expect you, or your friend the "engineer" to make any sense of that, it conflicts your own arguments. As I recall, your "engineer" friend went ballistic when I posted data from Chevron exposing his stupidity but even that was lost on you. There's plenty of data out there for people to find out the facts on their own I hardly have to say anything.
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So you too watched the loose change video...
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bitching and moaning is not going to change the fact that New York is still 2 buildings short. it is over and done with, politicians did what politicians do give a huge load of bullshit to cover up their greed.
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