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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
This probably belongs as an extension of "media overstepping bounds" thread... but.
Heard the other day that Al-Jazeera is trying to get a English version of their news onto US cable. Some people are campaigning to block it, claiming that they "believe in the First Amendment, but this is overstepping the boundary" or something like that.
I know all the conservatives on this board who have been liking me up until my stance on flag burning... but hate me more, you shall, for the same exact reason!
Two things:
1 - Freedom of speech includes things that are unpopular. There is "evidence" that al-Jazeera encourages terrorism, but it's pretty loose evidence. It's like hearing someone at Columbine blame the Doom videogame for their actions.
2 - More than likely, no one will watch this horseshit. Cable is out to make money, and they make money by ads. If no one watches, no ad revenue is generated. It'll be gone.
Not worth the time to fight it being carried on cable.
What's most lol out of all of it is the rebrand: "al-Jazeera International". I'll watch it if they broadcast Naked News with some hotty Persian girls.
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Dude if they have 14 different evangelical channel..........why not one for them?
Like I give a fuck.
If they blatantly go out and encourage domestic terrorism, we just hijack the show and execute them for all their viewers to see and it would be legal under treason laws.
Shit I want my own cable show..............but Id need it to be pay per view or something.
Whod let me have nekkid chicks running around humping each other while I build cool bikes and cussed like a sailor?
Certainly not Discovery channel
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As far as watching it, not interested. The thing that chaps my hide is that I PAY for cable. My money is given to them (end result) regardless if I watch it or not. Its similar to that spanish channels, I pay for them even though I dont watch them. Although with them, at least I get women jumping in scantaly clothes!
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What's the problem? They get criticized by all sides so they must be doing something right. Over and above that, they have a huge US internet viewership already. It makes perfect sense for them to establish a US presence.
As far as watching it, not interested. The thing that chaps my hide is that I PAY for cable. My money is given to them (end result) regardless if I watch it or not. Its similar to that spanish channels, I pay for them even though I dont watch them. Although with them, at least I get women jumping in scantaly clothes!
Wait - that's not how I understand the cable/sattelite pricing system.
Ad revenues are based on viewership. Channels that do not run ads rely on premium access fees - your HBOs, Cinemax, Playboy TV, etc.
It's not my understanding that cable or sattelite companies pay anything to the networks for access to extended cable channels. Kind of like paying an Internet company for access to the Internet, not the content that's on the Internet.
The fees you pay to the cable companies are for maintaining the access to the programming, not the programming itself.
Edit: additionally, pay-per-channel ala carte pricing is on its way, especially with the "onDemand" invention slowly working properly. But again, that's for access, not the actual programming.
The fees you pay to the cable companies are for maintaining the access to the programming, not the programming itself.
"The economic model of cable news is basically the same as it is for all cable channels. To fund operations, cable channels depend on two revenue streams: advertising revenue and revenue from license fees - money paid by the cable systems that carry the channel. Most channels are marketed toward specific niches, whether a demographic (like young men, who are targeted by Spike) or people with a particular avocation (such as amateur cooks, for whom the Food Network was designed)."
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"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by a mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
They get criticized by all sides so they must be doing something right.
Please tell me this is not how you justify your acceptance of them. Al-Jazeera: Fair and Balanced?
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"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by a mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
"The economic model of cable news is basically the same as it is for all cable channels. To fund operations, cable channels depend on two revenue streams: advertising revenue and revenue from license fees - money paid by the cable systems that carry the channel. Most channels are marketed toward specific niches, whether a demographic (like young men, who are targeted by Spike) or people with a particular avocation (such as amateur cooks, for whom the Food Network was designed)."
I only pay $70 per month for 400 some odd channels. What do you think cable companies are giving to each of the channels?
After the cable company's overhead, then profit... what's left? Fractions of pennies per channel?
I see your point, though... I don't even really want a fraction of a cent going to a facist organization. But then I'd have to drop 380 of my channels.
Im sure its just cents on the dollar for each channel, but if you add up millions of subscribers, well, it adds up to a tidy sum of cash for a terrorist sponsored channel.
There are so many channels I would love to drop. I agree, Id be down to about 20 channels. And that is why the cable companies are up in arms about pay per channel pricing. Unless it is mandated, it wont happen. They would lose billions. They would much rather stick it to you for your $70 bucks a month buffet style programming.
I agree with your original post, if no one watches it, they will lose ad revenue. Unfourtunately there are a lot of people who would eat it like candy. And I suspect they could find funding from other resources.
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A) I couldn't give two wet shits out of a lab rats ass wether they have a cable channel or not, freedom of speech and all that, also, I don't watch T.V. so it's a moot point.
B) I would definitely watch Hybrids T.V. show. Didn't someone come out with motorcycle repair DVDs with nude women in them? Hybrid?
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Please tell me this is not how you justify your acceptance of them. Al-Jazeera: Fair and Balanced?
Its a fact. Your problem with them is that they show stuff you'd rather they didn't. They get the same criticism from your enemies. You've drunk the kool-aid to believe that: 1. There is only one side to the wars we're in and 2. Showing real pictures of real (and grusome) war is somehow immoral.
I think you've bought all the arguments pro-censorship people use to get away with doing bad things outside of your view.
Al Jazeera on US tv!
