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Old 04-28-2006, 05:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 04-28-2006, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What exactly are you talking about?
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I say fucking firebomb that place..........Like I give a fuck about some traitors or conspirators.

Im not a gambling man and Id bet every fucker there has reason to be there.
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Firebomb what place? The whole base? Or just open the gates and let all the insurgents try and make it into Cuba? Cause that would be funny....we should do that and webcast it. Cuban soldiers just lighting up "invading Americans".
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Im not a gambling man and Id bet every fucker there has reason to be there.


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Firebomb what place? The whole base? Or just open the gates and let all the insurgents try and make it into Cuba? Cause that would be funny....we should do that and webcast it. Cuban soldiers just lighting up "invading Americans".
Castro would more likely give them asylum and start working with them on how to fuck with the US more.



But it'd be great to try it out with a few and see if that scenario played out!
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...dress them in BDUs and tape non-working M-16's to their hands - then tell them that if they don't run their asses off to the other side of the "line", they'll be shot - here's their chance at freedom!

Man, that would almost make a good idea for one of those movies like "Hostel", or something like that - only on a military level.
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I say fucking firebomb that place..........Like I give a fuck about some traitors or conspirators.

Im not a gambling man and Id bet every fucker there has reason to be there.
So is there is a reason for them to be held without trial for over 4 years ?

Guantanomo bay is an aberration, It is a prison that any civilised society should be thoroughly ashamed of. Would there be a prison like this on the US mainland ... no, because it's illegal to hold people without evidence or a trial for so long.

Why don't the US government provide the evidence against these people and take it through the legal process .... because they have no evidence that's why.

So the US government is holding people in appalling conditions where the prisoners have no access to any legal representation and there is evidence they are being tortured and being denied basic human rights, and you think you live in a democracy.

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So is there is a reason for them to be held without trial for over 4 years ?

Guantanomo bay is an aberration, It is a prison that any civilised society should be thoroughly ashamed of. Would there be a prison like this on the US mainland ... no, because it's illegal to hold people without evidence or a trial for so long.

Why don't the US government provide the evidence against these people and take it through the legal process .... because they have no evidence that's why.

So the US government is holding people in appalling conditions where the prisoners have no access to any legal representation and there is evidence they are being tortured and being denied basic human rights, and you think you live in a democracy.
Aren't the prisoners there POW's. Since the war on terror is still going on they will be held until the war is over.
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I've been reading about the detention camp at Guantanamo, a few things seem disturbing to me.

-They have detained enemy combatants as young as 13.
-28 detainees at have gone on hunger strikes. Of those, 23 are being forced fed by inserting tubes down their noses into their stomach.
-An American soldier was told to act as an uncooperative detainee in a cell for removal practice, which by lack of communication he was beaten to the point of brain and spinal damage.

I'm not saying these suspects shouldn't be prosecuted, if they are guilty. However, I'm not too fond of the idea of secret American concentration camps, with evidence of torture.
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why the fuck would we want to start a catch and release program?????
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Aren't the prisoners there POW's. Since the war on terror is still going on they will be held until the war is over.
The 'War on Terror' is a bit of a loose term and has no definition, so I can't see how all these people being held illegally are 'prisoners of war '.
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This is straight from wikipedia.

The U.S. government has classified the detainees in Camp X-Ray as "illegal combatants," rather than prisoners of war (POWs), which they claim means that they do not have to be conferred the rights granted to POWs under the Geneva Conventions. The U.S. government justifies this designation by claiming that they do not have the status of either regular soldiers nor that of guerrillas, and they are not part of a regular army or militia.

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...dress them in BDUs and tape non-working M-16's to their hands - then tell them that if they don't run their asses off to the other side of the "line", they'll be shot - here's their chance at freedom!

Man, that would almost make a good idea for one of those movies like "Hostel", or something like that - only on a military level.

That's what I meant...Guess I should clarify myself.
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