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Originally Posted by Fargin_Bastige
My issue with creation is that it's timeline is wacked AND it makes no mention of the origin of the creator. Not to mention the amount of inbreeding that would have to occur, which is against it's own teachings.
2 big holes.
You should check out the books from Zacharia Stitchen........12th Planet series.
Everybit as plausible and actually makes a bit more sense than the bible. Its a good story in the very least. I really like that I can use common sense of current knowledge to make the stories plausible unlike 2 human spawned the 6 billion+ we have now.
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cause rascus said I had to.........
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It was the egg.........the chicken evolved from a dinosaur which laid eggs.
The egg had to come first. What laid that egg containing the mutation we know as a chicken was some sort of freaky proto-chicken. Had teeth or something, I'm sure.
As to where it all came from, God made it. The bible quite clearly says so, and the bible is absolute fact. God's word and all.
Creationist: The universe had to be created by someone!
Evolutionist: Maybe it was always just there?
Creationist: Nothing was always just there. God made it all.
Evolutionist: Where did God come from?
Creationist: He was always there!
Evolutionist: But didn't you just say...?
Creationist: BLASPHEMY!!
That is an almost word for word transcript of a conversation I actually had with someone once. Except that last line. I don't think they even got a response out.
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God can't wrestle. (Genesis 32:24-29)
Another theory states that life could have come from a comet or astroid.
I think that the chances of life being the norm are slim, but I can't believe that Earth is the only planet with a little fuzz growing on it.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken
A single fact can ruin a good argument.
Mr. T once punched Chuck Norris at the exact moment that he roundhouse kicked Mr. T in the Chest. The resulting pressure wave is commonly referred to as the big bang
The need to know is a constantly amusing artifice. It leads to all sorts of leaps in rational thinking. My favorite of these is the notion that -- just because there is some being or presence we don't understand, it must be the ghostly remnants of dead people.
In the end, this is simply an unknowable thing. The importance of it is roughly on par with whether or not your neighbor has a birthmark on his butt. Either being unknown will have no effect on this day, or any other day of your life.
So I say that it came from the birthmark on your neighbors butt. It was bitten off by your other neighbor's dog, fell in the water, was attacked by a fungus and eventually crawled out on two hind flippers. ;-)
Well, since evolution is a FACT in the scientific community, I would tend to study that more than the mythology of the Buy-Bull. Plus, there are TWO creation accounts in Genesis, so take your pick. Just like there is no coherent account of The Resurrection in the New Testament if you take the four Gospels word for word, which is kind of strange since that is the most important event in the Buy-Bull otherwise this Jesus dude was just another charlatan. If he even existed, which is doubtful anyways. What people fail to realize is the fact that evolution does not focus on what caused life to appear on Earth but HOW organisms change to adapt the their environment. Then again, it takes a lot more commitment to study evolution than it does to read the first few pages of that Garden Of Eden myth, which gives more time for the Jesus people to knock on your door
The need to know is a constantly amusing artifice. It leads to all sorts of leaps in rational thinking. My favorite of these is the notion that -- just because there is some being or presence we don't understand, it must be the ghostly remnants of dead people.
In the end, this is simply an unknowable thing. The importance of it is roughly on par with whether or not your neighbor has a birthmark on his butt. Either being unknown will have no effect on this day, or any other day of your life.
So I say that it came from the birthmark on your neighbors butt. It was bitten off by your other neighbor's dog, fell in the water, was attacked by a fungus and eventually crawled out on two hind flippers. ;-)
The hope with much of that is to find purpose or meaning out of the knowledge of one's self, which may be a perfectly legitimate endeavor, but it's pursuit can be skewed into many directions, and even violent social practices, as that meaning leads to thoughts of moral heirarchy. In fact, the basic understanding of self leads to pretty much all social laws and norms as we know them today. The interpretations of self are what creates understanding of the rest of the world as we see it.
The biggest flaw in the theory of evolution is not so much scientific, but spriritualistic. What I mean by this is that even if everything came from a aomeba or cell, where did love and hatred come from? Right and wrong? Creativity? Beauty? These things don't evolve out of a cell. They can only come from something as supreme as The One, Allah, who created everything. Just my two cents.
i love the movie misson to mars, anyone else seen it? it has an interesting theory as to how life on earth started. doesn't mean i believe it, i believe in god all the way. still a helluva movie though.
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Poor argument. If God existed why did he let us evolve scientifically? Why didn't Jesus throw a couple hints about running water and electricity, or just shit an iPod out his ass?
As we've evolved, we've labelled all kinds of things. It wasn't wrong just 100 years ago to own another person as a slave. So right and wrong evolve and modify based on cultures and thought. Before Hammurabi's Code - what was "wrong"?
Love and Hate are labels to instinctive methods. Since we're able to think logically (ok, some of us are) we rationalize or label things we cannot explain, rather than simply act out on it. Our current definitions of right and wrong allow us to enact different procedures to carry out those feelings.
Animals just react to stimuli and their instinct. If they hate something, they run or attack. We talk shit. Or shoot each other. Or PIITB. Or love it and leave it like hybrid will attest.
Take just one small chunk of the land: Italy. 4000 years ago, no one could figure there was something like a god. 3000 years ago, people KNEW there were multiple gods. 2000 years ago those people KNEW there was only one god. Now people there KNOW there is only one god, and some hippy was his son and all of humanity's saviour.
It's amazing how much Christianity has evolved in just the last 50 years.
