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Old 02-20-2006, 06:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dated Feb 1, 2005. Although this article is old, it still goes to show the mentality of the people who come up with these horrible ideas.
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Old 02-20-2006, 06:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Shit... that is prety screwed up.
Honour killings in Palestine and the West Bank... unbelievable. Making it the womans fault they got raped... often by their father or brother.
Culture and religion are nearly impossible to change, deep routed beliefs woven into a society; ignorant & uneducated villagers.


What kind of depraved human being would blow up a kid in a wheelchair with downsyndrome... probably would justify it & say the kid is a martyr, with god, and having fun with 40 virgins....
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Old 02-20-2006, 06:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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probably would justify it & say the kid is a martyr, with god, and having fun with 40 virgins....
Hey if it gets me 40 virgins, sign me up.
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Old 02-20-2006, 06:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Honor killings are absolutely ridiculous.

They will kill a woman BECAUSE she was raped. Bass Ackwards.
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I’m confused, is this an article attacking radical Islam,

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Hamas, the Islamist terrorist group which is the Palestinian branch of the Islamic Brotherhood, the Palestinian Authority and other terrorists groups are renowned child exploiters. Abdel Aziz Rantisi, former leader of Hamas, was a pediatrician who approved of using Palestinian children as suicide bombers (except for his own children, of course). The Palestinian Popular Resistance Committee runs terrorist training camps for children (pictures can be viewed here). The Palestinian Authority sponsored a program called Children’s Place, using Sesame Street-like characters to promote Jihad. The PA institutionalizes terrorism in school curriculum, and commercials on government run television.
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The Islamist terrorist culture encourages young women to become suicide bombers. It condones the “honor killings” of women accused of premarital sex, physical and mental abuse, slavery and female genital mutilation (euphemistically called female circumcisions).
or a shot against the "coddling" left?

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When will the Left recognize the abject depravity of this enemy? What will it take for them to understand the enemy we face is not merely a criminal band or terrorists that can be rounded up with an international policing effort? We are at war with an enemy that is deeply rooted in Arab and Muslim culture, and in some cases have hijacked the apparatuses of states. Ignoring Islamists will not make them go away, and containment will not keep them in their "cage".
To mention any person in the same breath as these “men of God” is to draw a connection figuratively between the two. This goes to the worst of partisan politics.
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Honor killings are absolutely ridiculous.

They will kill a woman BECAUSE she was raped. Bass Ackwards.
Wow, must be karma...I just read about this in my "Arab Mind" book. Excellent read I might add. Anyways, they actually will kill both, or at least try to, just not directly (or so the text hypothosizes). In the Arab culture, women are considered to be special property; in addition they retain the honor of the family. In such a masculine culture, this honor is "supposed" to be upheld at all costs (even though it's often hypocritical). So for instance, if an unmarried woman is raped, then her honor, and thus the family's honor, has been defamed. To regain some of it, it is up to her brothers and father to kill her. In addition, they now have a blood feud with the rapist, so it is their civic duty to hunt down and kill him as well. Which then starts another feud with the dead rapist's family who wants revenge.....multiply this by a million and you've got what we see today. The odd thing is, even after marriage, a woman still has a connection to her birth family. Thus, if rape occurs, it will more than likely be her birth family, and not her husband, that takes her life (if it's possible). The husband's job is to hunt and kill the rapist. Sounds screwed up, I know.

As to the hypocritical part, it is perfectly acceptable to rape a woman with no family, or if you are isolated and can get away with it without repercussion. Thus sex with concubines, even while married, is permissible and often encouraged.

The more I read, the more I begin to think the entire culture is a contradiction in beliefs...it baffles me.
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Honor killings are absolutely ridiculous.

They will kill a woman BECAUSE she was raped. Bass Ackwards.
+1. Word. Imagine the pain she must suffer.
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Hey if it gets me 40 virgins, sign me up.
Count me out. They are only virgins once. After a month and a half, you have 40 women nagging you for eternity. 1.5 months of heaven, followed be an eterninty of hell
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Its no secret that these people have been slaughtering each other since the dawn of time.

The religion they follow is founded on murder, rape and pillaging. I mean if jesus told you all that you could keep 25% of what you kill and steal.......wouldnt you do it?
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The religion they follow is founded on murder, rape and pillaging. I mean if jesus told you all that you could keep 25% of what you kill and steal.......wouldnt you do it?
LOL that's quite a selling point for a religious zealot of any caliber!!
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