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Old 02-03-2006, 11:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Just wait til the Jesus getting in the butt by a black man cartoon comes out in Hustler. Didn't Larry Flynt get shot over some shit like that a few years ago?
The minute I see it, I wont be out in the street burning a flag, losing my mind with my angry buddies to get a better shot of the effiegie of BUSH burning. Its CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH. More so, freedom of the press.

See the difference? Got a dollar that says you dont.
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In my opinion--It's kind of dumb to exercise "Freedom of Speech" when you clearly know that all it will do is incite hatred and add fire to an already very complicated situation (and possibly get people hurt).
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In my opinion--It's kind of dumb to exercise "Freedom of Speech" when you clearly know that all it will do is incite hatred and add fire to an already very complicated situation (and possibly get people hurt).
Do you own an AK-47? Do you fire rounds into the air sharing your hatred of the "flavor of the month"? Do you wear a mask to hide who you are?

Maybe we as a nation are more tolerant of freedom of speech. But I as one person am sick of people chanting "death to ********" because somehow they were offended.
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Do you own an AK-47? Do you fire rounds into the air sharing your hatred of the "flavor of the month"? Do you wear a mask to hide who you are?

Maybe we as a nation are more tolerant of freedom of speech. But I as one person am sick of people chanting "death to ********" because somehow they were offended.

There's more than just some smiley digs behind the symbolic communication here. The masters always expect the defeated peons to take it all with glee. As I said above, the reactions always fulfill the prophecy. The frustration is not with a simple cartoon caricature, its' with a culture of domination that is reinforcing itself at every turn. The reason we can take something like this and slough it off is because we don't share that status. Freedom of speech matters not when you are a slave.
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I would think that that at that point, it matters most.
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I would think that that at that point, it matters most.
And thus they communicated in the way it affects them most.

You ever notice how kids repeat what they hear? You ever notice that people pick-up accents of those around them? You ever notice that people tend to speak how they are spoken to?

You leave them with no other means of communication, then wonder what the fuck happened. They've picked-up on a few things, it;s just not the perception fo self that you want to hear.
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And thus they communicated in the way it affects them most.

You ever notice how kids repeat what they hear? You ever notice that people pick-up accents of those around them? You ever notice that people tend to speak how they are spoken to?

You leave them with no other means of communication, then wonder what the fuck happened. They've picked-up on a few things, it;s just not the perception fo self that you want to hear.
Back on topic.....

I read the paper every day, I see every political comic that is put in the currents section. I don't agree with every one. There are some that piss me off, some I laugh at, and some that are just stupid.

I STILL don't fucking protest with me and 1K of my ignorant buddies because we we are unhappy with our life, blame BUSH, blame Europe, western decadence, grab my nearest hand launched weapon of destruction, and shoot rounds in the air to somehow get some news reporter to catch me in the act of acting like an AHOLE.

You still don't see the difference, do you?
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Back on topic.....

I read the paper every day, I see every political comic that is put in the currents section. I don't agree with every one. There are some that piss me off, some I laugh at, and some that are just stupid.

I STILL don't fucking protest with me and 1K of my ignorant buddies because we we are unhappy with our life, blame BUSH, blame Europe, western decadence, grab my nearest hand launched weapon of destruction, and shoot rounds in the air to somehow get some news reporter to catch me in the act of acting like an AHOLE.

You still don't see the difference, do you?
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In my opinion--It's kind of dumb to exercise "Freedom of Speech" when you clearly know that all it will do is incite hatred and add fire to an already very complicated situation (and possibly get people hurt).

You are thinking about the Freedom of Speech in the wrong manner. This freedom we Americans celebrate is not to protect you for what you want or have to say. It's to protect other's so that they may say what you don't want to hear. That's a beautiful thing. People think they have the right to not be offended, that's not the case at all. Being offended is a good thing. It shows that you actually care and have strong feelings either for or against something.

In an ideal global society, people would respect what each and every other persons view and opinion is and simply accept it as such.

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I STILL don't fucking protest with me and 1K of my ignorant buddies because we we are unhappy with our life, blame BUSH, blame Europe, western decadence, grab my nearest hand launched weapon of destruction, and shoot rounds in the air to somehow get some news reporter to catch me in the act of acting like an AHOLE.
This, I believe, is one of the largest difficulties...when one engages in a battle with someone without understanding what makes them tick.
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This, I believe, is one of the largest difficulties...when one engages in a battle with someone without understanding what makes them tick.
If it's any consolation, he's an AHOLE regardless of his protesting skills.
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Riddle me this, HUNDREDS of muslims are killed every year from being trampled on the way to their holy city or wall or some shit but then protest when a few cartoons are put up ???

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It's a completely different culture, and obviously not many people completely understand it. So as a result, we have little right to criticize.
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It's a completely different culture, and obviously not many people completely understand it. So as a result, we have little right to criticize.
That's the thing, it's not a completely different culture, we just wish it was. Their acts are overt and stupid to us, ours are the same to them. Both violent, both irrational in their communication, both base their morality in strategies of domination. No different in the end, all pigs, some just more seething than others.
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