Bush Foreign Policy paying off. - Page 2

timd99 · 01-31-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eye speed

Once again, we're talking about dumbya NOT ANY OTHER CANDIDATE.

But I know you don't care.

So your saying we shouldnt compare him to anyone else? Are you high?

In other words, you just want to bitch, but offer no solutions to the problems with Bushies failures at foreign policy? And you know I dont care? Impressively incorrect.

bush · 01-31-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by timd99

So your saying we shouldnt compare him to anyone else? Are you high?

It doesn't matter, "anyone else" isn't our current president. Bottom line is that people know we're fucked now, and people know that Bush is somewhat responsible.

Any major wars in the Middle East ring a bell?

jim schmidt · 01-31-2006, 06:28 PM

Its the increasingly common refrain "He's no worse than the other guy!" You have to admit its a step in the right direction from "He's the greatest president of all time!"

Keith_J · 01-31-2006, 06:28 PM

12 years of UN-mandated inspection and verification was largely ignored. 12 YEARS! And what did the UN do? Secretly, they washed themselves in graft falling out from the "humanitarian" efforts of the UN.

12 YEARS! It was HIGH time someone came along to put "teeth" into the UN regulations because the UN was UNable to do anything but illegally profit from the misery of the people of Iraq.

Now in Iraq, the criminals are fighting with their lives. It cannot last forever as it is NOT anything like Vietnam, rather it is like the Reconstruction era of the former Confederate States.

Sure, the Palestinians have elected terrorists BUT there is NO unity after this election. They are rife for a civil war.

Iran is rapidly moving towards a North Korean style isolationism, unfortunately its population isn't willing to go lock-step in this direction. Expect to see civil war there too.

jim schmidt · 01-31-2006, 06:30 PM

Actually, the UN inspection teams destryed tons of bad stuff. It has become clear that they got it all. And it is now not even in debate that the inspections worked and they were right. The same can be said about the containment policy. It worked much better than the invasion.

It was a mistake of monumental proportions to make them leave and start a shooting war.

eye speed · 01-31-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by timd99

So your saying we shouldnt compare him to anyone else? Are you high?

In other words, you just want to bitch, but offer no solutions to the problems with Bushies failures at foreign policy? And you know I dont care? Impressively incorrect.

No, I am not high.

And no, we shouldn't compare him to anyone else. Why should we? "Anyone else" hasn't been president for 5 YEARS. Solutions? Why? A) I'm not president, and B) any solution, other than wht the moron in charge thinks is good for us, will fall on deaf ears here, anyway. You know, cuz im an "uhmericuh-hatin-com-u-nist".

Keith_J · 01-31-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jim schmidt

Its the increasingly common refrain "He's no worse than the other guy!" You have to admit its a step in the right direction from "He's the greatest president of all time!"

Elephants do not forget. I remember the USS Cole. I remember the US Embassies in Africa. I remember the Al Shifa Chemical Plant in Sudan that was making EMPTA under contract for Iraq.

I thank President Clinton for wiping that plant out because had Iraq been delivered its orders of EMPTA, we would have been facing an enemy with binary VX weapons. If you don't know, that is a persistent nerve agent, some 10-100 times more powerful than Sarin or Tabun.

Keith_J · 01-31-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jim schmidt

Actually, the UN inspection teams destryed tons of bad stuff. It has become clear that they got it all. And it is now not even in debate that the inspections worked and they were right. The same can be said about the containment policy. It worked much better than the invasion.

It was a mistake of monumental proportions to make them leave and start a shooting war.

UNSCOM had been ABSENT since October 1998! UNMOVIC could not possibly restart where UNSCOM had left off. First of all, Iraq had been contracting with Al Shifa Chemical Plant in Sudan for manufacture of EMPTA, a chemical that has only one use, that being binary VX. Iraq had been stymied in G agents given their poor shelf life. Storage was a concern and binary VX was the answer. Thankfully, Clinton destroyed that plant.

The remaining prohibited items were evacuated to Syria weeks before the second war (actually resumption of GWI). This is FACT from an eye witness in the Iraq Air Force

timd99 · 01-31-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eye speed

No, I am not high.

And no, we shouldn't compare him to anyone else. Why should we? "Anyone else" hasn't been president for 5 YEARS. Solutions? Why? A) I'm not president, and B) any solution, other than wht the moron in charge thinks is good for us, will fall on deaf ears here, anyway. You know, cuz im an "uhmericuh-hatin-com-u-nist".

who called you an "uhmericuh-hatin-com-u-nist"? Only you, so far. The more you attack and presume anyone who doesnt agree with you is far right, the more you look like an extremist left.

Id suggest things you could do to help your cause, but you seem to have a defeatist attitude. Best of luck.

eye speed · 01-31-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by timd99

who called you an "uhmericuh-hatin-com-u-nist"? Only you, so far. The more you attack and presume anyone who doesnt agree with you is far right, the more you look like an extremist left.

Id suggest things you could do to help your cause, but you seem to have a defeatist attitude. Best of luck.

You were here the last time this board had a politics section, right?

BusaDave · 01-31-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith_J

12 YEARS! It was HIGH time someone came along to put "teeth" into the UN regulations because the UN was UNable to do anything but illegally profit from the misery of the people of Iraq.

Seriously??????

Is that what you think has happened, putting teeth into UN resolutions?

timd99 · 01-31-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eye speed

You were here the last time this board had a politics section, right?

Yep, but I must have missed that one.

BigBadBoom · 01-31-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BusaDave

Seriously??????

Is that what you think has happened, putting teeth into UN resolutions?

I like the part where he makes the conncection of Al Queda acts of terror with Saddam.

To some people Saddam still equals Al Queda.

jim schmidt · 01-31-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBadBoom

I like the part where he makes the conncection of Al Queda acts of terror with Saddam.

To some people Saddam still equals Al Queda.

You'd have to be dumber than a rock to believe this.

Keith_J · 01-31-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jim schmidt

You'd have to be dumber than a rock to believe this.

You obiviously do not have the necessary security clearance level to know these things. All news the media presents is obsolete for intelligence purposes.

Now if you are the defense for Hussein et al, you MIGHT have access but that is a long shot.

Just for your information, Al Shifa Chemical Plant had great expense in tooling for EMPTA production and had sent out feelers to terror organizations, including Al Queda.

But this all falls on deaf ears. Until you realize why President Clinton attacked Al Shifa. Had it just been an Iraq effect, cover would have been blown. No, this was a response to the African Embassy bombings which had the fingerprints of Al Queda all over. And it was no secret Al Queda had also funded EMPTA production.