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Old 01-20-2006, 11:46 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hey, look, all I have to say on the whole situation is this: The State of Louisiana is a really crappy state to begin with. New Orleans was alright, I guess, but it's a real shithole now. Wait 'til next hurricane season!

However, in light of the crime that the evacuation of New Orleans has brought to my state - TX - I hope that the former residents of the city do listen to Mr. Nagin - and not only the black population, but whites, hispanics, and everyone else as well. I'm not a racist, and I don't agree with what he said in whole, but I do wish that the people from that state to our east would go back there.....or just somewhere else. I haven't met any of them, personally - but I do know that our crime rate went up a bit in a short time because of the criminal element in the evacuees.

Granted, I'm sure that majority of New Orleanians are good people that just wanted a place to stay until they can go back - more power to them.

What I would like to see is for those who "migrated" to "migrate" back! That's all!
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What's the fasination? Are we really surprised that socially challenged officials are elected to office? We have plenty of examples. You have to love when bigots like Nagin and Clinton have to open their hate-filled mouths on a day that immortalizes a man that contributed to it's end.
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This has been an interesting thread, in my opinion. Reason being I felt much like the majority of you, in that I thought his comments were inappropriate and ignorant.

I discussed this man's remarks with a gentleman I work with who is from N.O.; a man who still maintains a household in N.O.; a man who flies back to N.O. from KY every other weekend and who knows the mayor personally.

This gentleman raised my eyebrows with his comments. Specifically, I was made aware that Nagin is a genuinely nice person. He's the coach of my coworker's nephew's little league team. I was made aware of the fact Nagin was a businessman before he was mayor. His political background is not that strong. He knows how to conduct himself in a business setting, but events of the past six months would test the limits of even the best of politicians, and I think that his remarks were the first signs of a broken man. He made some bad comments and he's being blasted for them. Rightfully so? Tough question, in light of all that's happened in N.O. recently. Were his comments really indicitive of his true feelings, or did he simply bow to pressure from certain outside influences? If, in fact, his comments were not genuine, is he still a bad mayor, or did he just make a bad decision?
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I would happen to follow the thought that his past decisions leading up to the event that took place does mean he is a poor choice for political service.

A business man does not always make a great leader. It does not always make for the best decisions of what is good for the people.

The fact that he showed his true colors with a undignified statement such as he made only shows me all the more why he shouldnt be re-elected.
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This gentleman raised my eyebrows with his comments. Specifically, I was made aware that Nagin is a genuinely nice person. He's the coach of my coworker's nephew's little league team. I was made aware of the fact Nagin was a businessman before he was mayor. His political background is not that strong. He knows how to conduct himself in a business setting, but events of the past six months would test the limits of even the best of politicians, and I think that his remarks were the first signs of a broken man. He made some bad comments and he's being blasted for them. Rightfully so? Tough question, in light of all that's happened in N.O. recently. Were his comments really indicitive of his true feelings, or did he simply bow to pressure from certain outside influences? If, in fact, his comments were not genuine, is he still a bad mayor, or did he just make a bad decision?
I fail to see any justification on his comments. The disaster that devastated the area undoubtedly created tremendous stress on political leadership, but they cannot resort to transposing that frustration through hate, intentionally or otherwise.
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Hey, look, all I have to say on the whole situation is this: The State of Louisiana is a really crappy state to begin with. New Orleans was alright, I guess, but it's a real shithole now. Wait 'til next hurricane season!

However, in light of the crime that the evacuation of New Orleans has brought to my state - TX - I hope that the former residents of the city do listen to Mr. Nagin - and not only the black population, but whites, hispanics, and everyone else as well. I'm not a racist, and I don't agree with what he said in whole, but I do wish that the people from that state to our east would go back there.....or just somewhere else. I haven't met any of them, personally - but I do know that our crime rate went up a bit in a short time because of the criminal element in the evacuees.

Granted, I'm sure that majority of New Orleanians are good people that just wanted a place to stay until they can go back - more power to them.

What I would like to see is for those who "migrated" to "migrate" back! That's all!

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What I would like to see is for those who "migrated" to "migrate" back! That's all!
Just the above statement as your hollow prologue would've been sufficed. The rest, I fail to see the point you’re trying to make.

Your line of argument and condemnation on the entire state of Louisiana, the city of NO and the unsupported crime rate that’s so significant as a result of people who have migrated to your state directly contradict with your assertion "Majority of NO people are good people" and added "I have never met any of them" statement truly is pointless and eccentric.

You have no justification for any of your statement except to add an unconstructive criticism and generalize the people of NO.

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I fail to see any justification on his comments. The disaster that devastated the area undoubtedly created tremendous stress on political leadership, but they cannot resort to transposing that frustration through hate, intentionally or otherwise.
I want to clarify that I wasn't attempting to justify his comments. What I was trying to do was to crack open a doorway to a line of discussion outside of "he's a fucktard and needs the boot".

I'm guessing the man hasn't had a decent night's sleep since the shit hit the fan. An ordinary man was slammed into an extraordinary situation overnight. That would test the limits of even the strongest-minded of individuals, I think.
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I want to clarify that I wasn't attempting to justify his comments. What I was trying to do was to crack open a doorway to a line of discussion outside of "he's a fucktard and needs the boot".

I'm guessing the man hasn't had a decent night's sleep since the shit hit the fan. An ordinary man was slammed into an extraordinary situation overnight. That would test the limits of even the strongest-minded of individuals, I think.
Granted, but it is times like this that seperates the good leaders from the bad ones. I believe that by making racial statements, he proved which he was.
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So I was enjoying my WHITE MOCHA today at starbucks when I happened to glance at the catchy 'The Way I See It' blurb on the side of the cup.

The Way I See It #54

We are all brothers and sisters. Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and special. Each adds to the rich treasure of humanity.

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Geez, here's the one sitting on my desk from yesterday... (I drink them a lot, one of my vices)

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Imagine we are all the same. Imagine we agree about politics, religion and morality. Imagine we like the same types of music, art, food and coffee. Imagine we all look alike. Sound boring? Differences need not divide us. Embrace diversity. Dignity is everyone’s human right.

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Nagin should read more cups. Can't we all just get along?
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So I was enjoying my WHITE MOCHA today at starbucks when I happened to glance at the catchy 'The Way I See It' blurb on the side of the cup.

The Way I See It #54

We are all brothers and sisters. Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and special. Each adds to the rich treasure of humanity.

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Can't we all just have a little white mocha city?
Google the hate directed at him, possibly worse than being labeled retarded. Speak out against the dominant culture and you'll get served up as a retard, a pervert, a huckster, you name it.
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