Martin Luther King Day

[license2ill]

So let me get this straight, the fact that there are all these hate threads topics is about prefertential treatment?

MLK had something to do with preferential treatment? Why are you so worried abut preferential treatment? You afraid you might lose some?

[EEfz6]

Originally Posted by license2ill

So let me get this straight, the fact that there are all these hate threads topics is about prefertential treatment?

MLK had something to do with preferential treatment? Why are you so worried abut preferential treatment? You afraid you might lose some?

No, MLK promoted equality, a thought that is lost on todays people. I am not so worried about preferential treatment. I am just sick and tired of hearing people whining about repression and the struggle for equality for African Americans when they had nothing to do with that struggle, except to enjoy all of the preferential treatment they have gained from their ancestors, not them, being repressed.

Afraid I might loose some? Actually, I am white, the only race that it is acceptable to discriminate against. Oh, wait, I am a very small amount Native American. Maybe I should whine about how my ancestors were treated and how everybody owes me something because of it.

Actually, I think I will do what I have always done. I worked hard in high school to earn a college scholarship. I worked hard in college to earn my degree and a good job. Maybe working hard and earning what I get works better than whining about how bad my ancestors had it, and expecting someone to give me something because of it.

[BusaDave]

Originally Posted by EEfz6

Afraid I might loose some? Actually, I am white, the only race that it is acceptable to discriminate against. Oh, wait, I am a very small amount Native American. Maybe I should whine about how my ancestors were treated and how everybody owes me something because of it.

Sure sounds like whining to me! Do you have proof that you personally have been discriminated against because of race, or are you simply doing the same thing you are "tired" of?

[sexyicecold]

Originally Posted by BusaDave

Sure sounds like whining to me! Do you have proof that you personally have been discriminated against because of race, or are you simply doing the same thing you are "tired" of?

+1

The moment you stop worrying about who is keeping you down and start worrying about who you can help empower is when you've changed as a person and have fulfulled MLK's dream.

[EEfz6]

Originally Posted by BusaDave

Sure sounds like whining to me! Do you have proof that you personally have been discriminated against because of race, or are you simply doing the same thing you are "tired" of?

No, but I can point out an instance where my sister was. At UAB, there is a Mr. & Mrs. UAB contest every year. When my sister attended, she got first runner up. Never thought about it much until she later gat a job at UAB. Found out from a friend of hers that worked there, who worked with the pagent, that they never choose a man or a woman of the same race that won the year before. The reason she did not win was because a white woman won the year before.

You can call it whining if you want to. In reality, it is mearly pointing out fact thatI have observed since getting into the real world, and that those facts directly dispute the context of this thread.

[EEfz6]

Originally Posted by sexyicecold

+1

The moment you stop worrying about who is keeping you down and start worrying about who you can help empower is when you've changed as a person and have fulfulled MLK's dream.

Nobody is keeping me down. I got where I am because I earned it, not because of any ethnic background. Everyone else should do the same.

[LoneRanger650]

....but I like the avatar, license2ill - by the way, isn't that a Beastie Boys song? Aren't they white? Just curious....

[license2ill]

Originally Posted by LoneRanger650

....but I like the avatar, license2ill - by the way, isn't that a Beastie Boys song? Aren't they white? Just curious....

The avatar has a history here at SBN, and with your boy Hybrid, and yeah the Beasties are white, and so am I.

[EEfz6]

Originally Posted by license2ill

The avatar has a history here at SBN

Isn't that one of the infamous pictures of JB

[hybrid]

Now Im his boy?

No it aint an infamous pic of JB thats one that floated around here forever.

Still trying to convince everyone that your right I see ill...........

when you come up with a clever argument, let me know

[malik ross]

Originally Posted by EEfz6

No, but I can point out an instance where my sister was. At UAB, there is a Mr. & Mrs. UAB contest every year. When my sister attended, she got first runner up. Never thought about it much until she later gat a job at UAB. Found out from a friend of hers that worked there, who worked with the pagent, that they never choose a man or a woman of the same race that won the year before. The reason she did not win was because a white woman won the year before.

You can call it whining if you want to. In reality, it is mearly pointing out fact thatI have observed since getting into the real world, and that those facts directly dispute the context of this thread.

and on the flip side a black man or woman would not win because a person of that race won the previous year. 6 of one, half dozen of another.

[hanglowejohnson]

Originally Posted by malik ross

and on the flip side a black man or woman would not win because a person of that race won the previous year. 6 of one, half dozen of another.

Fair enough and just as wrong and unfair, white, black, purple, yellow it doesnt matter.


When "guidelines" like that are put in place, it sure as hell isnt to placate all the white people, would you agree?

The fact that such a "guideline" exists is wrong. No matter WHO preferential treatment helps, its wrong, period.

[EEfz6]

Originally Posted by malik ross

and on the flip side a black man or woman would not win because a person of that race won the previous year. 6 of one, half dozen of another.

Except that the reason that this was in place, or so my sister was told, was to insure that the NAACP could find no grounds to sue them based on this pageant. Would my sister have actually won? We will never know. It is possible that the best canidate did win. But it is discrimination when, to appease this lobby, she did not have a chance.

And yes, hangelow, that is what I am trying to say, even if it is not what I am getting across. Race should in no way, ever be a factor. Personal merit should be the only thing ever considered.

[BusaDave]

Originally Posted by EEfz6

And yes, hangelow, that is what I am trying to say, even if it is not what I am getting across. Race should in no way, ever be a factor. Personal merit should be the only thing ever considered.

Don't know the details of this pageant and am not a particular fan of the pageant mentality to begin with.

Let's take a more meaningful scenario: You are a hiring manager and you have narrowed your job search down to two individuals who you feel are equally qualified; one has light skin, the other dark skin. You are aware that the world you live in has created an economic disparity against dark-skinned people and these same people are under represented in your company. Would you or would you not take that into consideration? If not, how would you decide? Flip a coin? Have them arm wrestle? How about women versus men?

In a perfect world, I would agree with your premise that race should not be a factor. However, in the real world it historically has been and is a factor that has lead to unfair treatment of particular classes of people. Now you are in a position to choose.

[hybrid]

thats pretty easy Dave...........someone has to have an edge somewhere on the other. And if it is that close, go with your gut..........who is going to make you more money?

We all know that history has been filled with atrociousitys (sp?) but the longer you keep beating the horse the longer it stays in your focus of it being a possibility.

Its not all that hard to look at a man and not see his color. For some I suppose it could be, after all you fear what you dont understand but I have a pretty good understanding of people in general.

*edit* While I know what your saying, yes some people would be ignorant to do that kind of thing and descriminate, I think you only procreate the cycle of it by saying its most assuredly going to be so. Why should I have to pick the black guy for fear of being called a racist?

Shouldnt we all really try to think a bit higher of ourselves?