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Old 01-10-2006, 05:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Muslims attack liquor store in the US - "Stop selling liquor, it is against Islam!"

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OAKLAND, Calif. - They weren't your ordinary thugs. Dressed in bow ties and dark suits, nearly a dozen men carrying metal pipes entered a corner store, shattered refrigerator cases and smashed bottles of liquor, wine and beer, terrifying the clerk but stealing nothing.

The just wanted to leave a message: Stop selling alcohol to fellow Muslims. In urban America, friction between poor residents and immigrant store owners is nothing new. Nor are complaints that inner-city neighborhoods are glutted with markets that sell alcohol and contribute to violent crime, vagrancy and other social ills.

But the recent attack at San Pablo Liquor — and an identical vandalism spree at another West Oakland store later that evening, along with an arson fire there and the kidnapping of the owner a few days later — have injected religion into the debate.

The two episodes highlighted tensions — and different interpretations of the Quran — between black Muslims in this struggling, crime-ridden city of 400,000 and Middle Eastern shop owners, many of them also Muslims.

Six men connected to a bakery founded by a prominent black Muslim family have been arrested in the Nov. 23 attacks, which were caught on store security cameras. In both instances, the vandals asked store clerks why they were selling alcohol when it was against the Muslim faith.
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Because we do not live by the Muslim faith, that's why!
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Old 01-10-2006, 05:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Those uptight muslims need to chill out.
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Old 01-10-2006, 05:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ah fuck it..........just start another holy war. Religion makes everything better
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I bet it also says somewhere in the Quran not to destroy other people's property, kidnap, etc... too.
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I bet it also says somewhere in the Quran not to destroy other people's property, kidnap, etc... too.
Yeah, but that's just a reference to women, not retail store merchandise.

While it's not right, it's easy to see the frustration of being exploited in a situation that is already bad. When one finds a little bit of power, the moral values tend to slide towards the maintenance of that power. Is it an act of violence to exploit your fellow man? It's not overt, but it's similarites are there. Religion leaves room for skewed interprations of morality.
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I have developed a bias against Islam over the last few months. All the bullshit stacked up and I'm frankly tired of it. I'm tired of being tolerant. I'm tired of being "enlightened".
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Incidentally, this happend a couple of months ago too and got a small paragraph and 30 seconds on the news. I was very surprised that none of the news organizations latched on to it then.
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Im also tired of hearing about Americans not being able to live freely because it goes against the islam or muslim faith. Either adapt to American culture or go back to f'in Pakistan.
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Im also tired of hearing about Americans not being able to live freely because it goes against the islam or muslim faith. Either adapt to American culture or go back to f'in Pakistan.
thats an odd comment considering there are fellow americans who are not able to live freely based on the beliefs of Christians.
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well, least we don't have muslims knockin on our doors at 6:30am to tell me how jesus died on the cross for my sins. makes ya wonder which is less evil.
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I apologize for my last comment, I was in a pretty foul mood. A majority of the Muslims I've known have been good regular people just trying to make it in the world. The 1%er's of their faith try REALLY hard to mess it up for the rest of them.
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So Fred, have you heard any more about this? Its really off the radar. Is it possible that its either a hoax or an insurance scam?
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Or no one speaks Arabic. Biheyr!
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There was video of a couple of these attacks. Looked like Nation of Islam guys, but they claimed no responsibility.
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