Should paternity be tested at birth?

[hybrid]

Originally Posted by Rascus

me?

Uh yeah.............I think this shit is a total crock and there are a few things about how the law controlled from old ass viewpoints.

Most of those laws were created when men also controlled the work force and women were stay at home mom/homemakers. Consequently the viewpoint is that the woman should be able to stay at home and get a gigantic portion of the mans salary.

Too bad in todays society, it usually takes both parents to have income to live even somewhat comfortably.

This dude got fucked and I personaly would have just said "Fine, since the kid is now mine, how bout I fucking kill the whore and raise him by myself, its obvious to me that she doesnt have good moral judgement anyways"

[Oni]

Originally Posted by jiandersen76

If you need a paternity test at the time of delivery to answer any questions you may have, you shouldn't be married in the first place.

I like the fact that this prick raises the child for 3 years (before the divorce) then walks away and does not want to support him/her. Must be a heartless bastard to turn his back on the child that knows only him as dad.

Must be a heartless bitch to step out on her husband in the first place. Did you miss the part that they were married and the child was conceived during the marriage? His wife cheated, got pregnant by someone other than her husband, and carried the child to term as if nothing happened. As if there was no question to the paternity. The guy trusted his wife, had faith in her, and got shafted for it. If she couldn't or did not want to live up to her vows, why didn't she divorce before the child was conceived?

Originally Posted by jiandersen76

Paternity does not constitute fatherhood.

Nor does child support.

[Oni]

Originally Posted by hybrid

This dude got fucked and I personaly would have just said "Fine, since the kid is now mine, how bout I fucking kill the whore and raise him by myself, its obvious to me that she doesnt have good moral judgement anyways"

It's funny that the court decided the ruling was in the best interest of the child. Rulings like this will likely give the FINANCIAL father this type of resentment toward the childs mother and possibly the child.

I asked for opinions from both sides. I got them. Although more women's responses that were a little more well thought would have been appreciated.

[2wheels4ever]

I think they should do this in my little brothers case he started dating a girl with 5 kids already. They've been together for about three maybe three and a half months. She supposed to have been fixed after her last kid but magicaly she is pregnant. from her given due date it probably realy isn't my brothers but he is all excited, wich is good but only if it is his. On top of it all she's got him convinced to ditch his F2 I can't believe how bad he is brainwashed on the kid and the bike I mean I got two kids only income from me is 36,000 and we get by and still have money with all of our toys. maybe something like this kind of thing would help more people traped by scandalous hood rats.

[AnKleBiTer]

Originally Posted by Oni

I asked for opinions from both sides. I got them. Although more women's responses that were a little more well thought would have been appreciated.

Are you saying that any of the responses from women weren't thought out? Kind of judgemental aren't we?!
Maybe you didn't see the response you wanted?

It's a tough situation and having never been in that position it is really difficult for me to say how I feel. I know I feel sorry for the child first and foremost. I think if the woman knew without a doubt it wasn't her spouses she was deceitful. As for the man I do feel feel sorry for him as well.
My question would be, does finding out that the child isn't his biological child suddenly make him stop caring for the child? I am not saying that the man should have to pay for a child that isn't his but I don't really see the emotional or psychological issues truly and clearly addressed here.

[Oni]

Originally Posted by AnKleBiTer

Are you saying that any of the responses from women weren't thought out? Kind of judgemental aren't we?!
Maybe you didn't see the response you wanted?

It's a tough situation and having never been in that position it is really difficult for me to say how I feel. I know I feel sorry for the child first and foremost. I think if the woman knew without a doubt it wasn't her spouses she was deceitful. As for the man I do feel feel sorry for him as well.
My question would be, does finding out that the child isn't his biological child suddenly make him stop caring for the child? I am not saying that the man should have to pay for a child that isn't his but I don't really see the emotional or psychological issues truly and clearly addressed here.

Originally Posted by Oni

Although more women's responses that were a little more well thought would have been appreciated.

My post of reference was quoted earlier. In appearance, some responses from women were based purely in emotion and not logic. So call me judgemental if you like. No less judgemental than the "prick" comment made by another poster.

Does it make the guy stop caring less about the child to discover the child is not his? Likely not. Maybe some of the guy will pipe in on that question. Does it make him financially responsible? I don't think so because he wasn't there for the deed. I don't think many women would care to have someone else's child's fiscal responsibility forced on them. Could be wrong though.

To answer some of your other questions (also not being in the situation but based on those I have):
A guy can be in a relationship with a woman that has children knowing that they are not his and have very strong emotional ties to the child. This is a situation I've personally been in. When we split I missed the child more than I did her. Actually made a point of avoiding any women with children because of the fact. The child knew exactly who her biological father was and her mother had primary physical custody. For nearly three years I was "Daddy". She chose to call me that one day out of the blue and it stuck. I was the one that fed, bathed, read bedtime stories, was there when she took her first steps, etc. Believe it or not after over ten years of not being with her mother I still miss her (the child). My current SO has a 19 year old. He's currently off serving his country. I'm not his father and he has a great relationship with his father and my SO her EX. He's not my kid but damned if I wouldn't be heartbroken if anything ever happened to him.

As for the thread itself, one of my best friends was the other guy in an identical situation. The women was married, had a one night stand with him, he didn't take any precautions (dumbass). Three years later he gets a letter from the DA pertaining to his one night of passion because the women's husband decided to divorce. He explains the situation to me and asks, "what do I do?" My response was, "if the child is yours, take care of your business and be there for your kid!" Turns out it was was my friend's child and not her husband's. My friend in question has never missed a payment since he got the results and spends as much time as possible with his daughter. The differnce in his case was she cheated, it became known later, and the proper male had to take on his responsibility.

It actually matters more (than any responses to the thread) that guys see this thread because their rights are sorely lacking in this area.

[Oni]

Originally Posted by 2wheels4ever

I think they should do this in my little brothers case he started dating a girl with 5 kids already. They've been together for about three maybe three and a half months. She supposed to have been fixed after her last kid but magicaly she is pregnant. from her given due date it probably realy isn't my brothers but he is all excited, wich is good but only if it is his. On top of it all she's got him convinced to ditch his F2 I can't believe how bad he is brainwashed on the kid and the bike I mean I got two kids only income from me is 36,000 and we get by and still have money with all of our toys. maybe something like this kind of thing would help more people traped by scandalous hood rats.

If he chooses to marry and adopt the 5 kids then he knowingly takes on that responsibilty. That should be his choice if the children are not biolically his. As for the one on the way. He should get the test done. Then he knows where he stands. If the child on the way is his he should take care of his business and be the best possible father he can. If it's not his he needs to run like hell. Then she needs to track down the real father and hold him responsible.

[SqDancerLynn1]

Haven't you seen Ophra "Who's my Daddy"

[WannaMoto]

Shouldn't they test the mother too? These days, with medical technologies, any pyscho chick can blackmail any man.
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