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Politics & ReligionWell Since every damn forum has one. Might as well leave it out there. This place is loosely moderated and should not be entered if you're weak of heart.
In October he said 'Israel should be wiped off the map'. Yesterday he said the Holocaust was a myth. These comments may affect talks between European countries and Iran on nuclear development.
Now for the funny part.
"Today, Mr Ahmadinejad also criticised the United States for refusing to sell Iran spare parts for its civilian planes as part of its long-standing embargo against the country.
Iran has suffered a series of plane accidents - most recently on December 6 when an ageing US-made military transport plane crashed into a block of flats in Tehran, killing 115 people. Iranian officials have blamed Washington for the crashes, saying they are partly caused by the difficulty in obtaining spare parts.
"No country is authorised to impose spare-part sanctions against another country. Nothing can justify this," Mr Ahmadinejad said."
You know what mr admir.... akmid.... admajami...... Mr A-Hole Maybe you should just go make your own F'n parts. How's that sound. Or after you kick a country out of yours maybe you should stop expecting help from them.... and stop flying their @*$! planes!
Yeah...this guys a real wack job. He wants to talk shit and is to busy crying about nobody helping to notice that there are gun barrels pointed directly at him.
You don't really spend much time thinking about your views, do you?
I'll pick up that glove. If my local auto parts store doesn't have my brake pads in stock, or doesn't take American Express, then is it their fault if I drive without them and get into an accident?
Put the shoe on the other foot. If the French didn't want to sell us Airbus parts (say they embargoed us over the Iraq invasion) is Delta at fault or the French if they crash an non-airworthy plane?
If they choose to fly the planes even though they are not airworthy, it's not our fault. <b>Don't fly the friggin' plane.</b> Go buy a French or Russian plane. Transport people via other means.
__________________ Regulations are a poor substitute for good judgement.
-- One of my officer training school instructors
Blame wasn't the question though. He was responding to my assertion that we do no one any good by that action. Of course all of his posts fall in the knee-jerk category of "Fuck 'Em" which led to my reply.
It seems that you focused on the latter part of his "Fuck 'Em." And sure, in the narrowest of thinking, you could surmise that the only issue was who was the last one at fault. But then you'd just be doing what he did. And maybe, what our non-beneficial policy did as well. Small thinking doesn't really seem like your style, though.
I don't think civilian deaths are warranted, but, this is the country who let the 9/11 hijackers through. They could use planes as a weapon. I wouldn't put it past them.
Most of the 9/11 hijackers has stamped passports from Iran.
In other words, they have been complicit in the 9/11 attacks, using civil aircraft as weapons. If they were able to repair their own, what would prevent them from causing harm with their aircraft?
I am not alone. This was brought up by Michael Scheuer.
We haave to stand for something. Although not everyone agrees with the methods of those in power currently, one thing America is supposed to stand for is freedom and self-destiny for citizens. If we embargo Iran to encourage a change in policies, yet break it for hundreds of exceptions, we weaken the strength of that tool.
Do we make exceptions? Sure. We've offered aid for every one of their earthquakes recently. I think we sell them food. But if we make exception after exception, then the embargo doesn't encourage them to revisit their policies, it just teaches them to game the system.
__________________ Regulations are a poor substitute for good judgement.
-- One of my officer training school instructors
As I said, while you may disagree with the methods of those currently in power ...
I don't think it was our place to invade for that purpose. However, Iraq has a true elctive process right now, rather than the sham it had before. Will it blow up in our face as the people elect a Shiite government? Likely. It could have been foreseen before the invasion. But at least the people will choose it.
__________________ Regulations are a poor substitute for good judgement.
-- One of my officer training school instructors
So much to comment on. It's a pretty far leap to say that a passport stamp is involvement in the conspiracy. I have one from Greece, does that mean they were complicit in the birth of my first child?
It's a pretty far leap to say that embargos work, much less to say that the whole thing goes out the window if we send some food, medicine, or spare parts.
It's a huge leap to equate these airliners (which can't even fly in our air space) with the ones used during 9/11. Those were our planes and we're the ones who let them in the country. Shifting the blame does nothing to fix the problem. There is simply no connection between these planes and our danger.
The only bigger leap here is trying to assert that anything good has happened in Iraq. If your goal is to isolate Iran, this is another reason why the Iraq fiasco was a total failure. Even before the newly elected Islamic Theocracy is seated, Iraq has:
1. Negotiated an agreement with Iran to train their soldiers.
2. Signed a trad pact with Iran.
3. Been extended a one billion line of credit from Iran for trade.
Iran's President Didn't Help His Country with these Comments
