Tre Mod For Suzukis

04gsxr600 · 09-14-2004, 08:00 PM

Where the hell can I get this thing it is making me crazy any links are apperciated...Daryl

2002 Busa SE · 09-14-2004, 08:19 PM

why?? IMO its a waste, do yourself a favor...make a homemade one, then if you think you can feel any difference buy a TRE. do a search for a homemade TRE, it will cost about 1.00, its either a 6.8K resister or 15K not sure. it tricks your computer into thinking its in 5th gear all the time, each gear has its own timing , so why would you want to mess with what suzuki spent so much time developing??

bbqb4racin · 09-14-2004, 09:26 PM

You can find them on Ebay most of the time. It's mostly effective for low speed drivability improvement. Hesitation, jerkyness, on/off throttle conditions will be improved. If you can find one cheap or make one they're worth it. Rick

04gsxr600 · 09-15-2004, 04:58 PM

I was just entertaining the idea, I have heard so many mixed reviews of this thing. So all that resistor does is trick the ecu into thinking it is in 5th gear...Well Im going to have to research more on this thing. I was told that you should be able to feel it kinda seat of the pants type feel, nothing major but maybe make the wheel come up quicker? I duno....thanks for the help so far...

fengler · 09-15-2004, 05:09 PM

i have never even heard of this thing? what does it do and what are the benefits?

bbqb4racin · 09-16-2004, 05:40 PM

I will answer your question again. The TRE will improve your low speed drivability. Does your bike hesitate at low speeds? Does it feel jerky at low rpms? Is the on/off throttle transition smooth? If you have any of these symtoms the TRE will improve or even eliminate them. Drivability is the key word here, (how the bike feels). If you think it's a bolt on, blast off, horsepower maker you might be disappointed. I have one on my TLR and it's on there to stay. It makes it much nicer to drive on the low end. Rick

fengler · 09-16-2004, 06:34 PM

hmmm... yeah mine is kinda twitchy, will it work for my older bike?

mospeda · 09-17-2004, 05:34 AM

Shock Truth about TRE:

I've seen two mods for the Suzukis; one fools the bike into thinking it's in second instead of first, and one fools the bike into thinking it's in fifth instead of sixth.

The first mod is for those who want more power in first gear. While it's laudable to want more power in ANY gear, first is the last gear you want more power in. Any of the fuel-injected Suzukis should be able to loft the front tire quite easily in first gear. If you get rid of the ignition retard in first, you run the risk of wheelying over backwards. Since normal people (!) generally are out of first pretty damned quick anyway, there's nothing much to be gained in terms of acceleration from it, just more danger. Of course, some people feel the need, and more power to them, I guess...

The second mod is even less sensible. The reason it's been done by people is that sixth gear is soft-limited for top speed; the ignition timing is slowly retarded at about 3/4 of redline, and is retarded increasingly as you approach redline. The effect is to roll off the power as you approach redline in sixth, effectively limiting the top speed slightly. So people figure since fifth gear doesn't soft limit, fool the bike into thinking it's in fith gear and raise your top speed.

There's only one problem with that... Until you reach the soft limit, the fuel-injected Suzukis make more power in sixth gear than they do in fifth! Which means if you fool the bike into thinking it is in fifth, yes, it will have a marginally faster top speed, but it will actually take a LONGER TIME to get to that top speed, because it makes LESS POWER through most of sixth gear!

So there you have it. I'm sure people will still do the mods, but for my money, there's nothing to be gained from either mod, and something to be lost on both of them...

Adam Wade

Scotteq · 09-17-2004, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fengler

hmmm... yeah mine is kinda twitchy, will it work for my older bike?

If your bike isn't a recent vintage fuel injected Suzuki, then the answer is "no, it will not work." Why?? Because your bike does not have a Timing Retard system.

Mospeda explained already what it does.

Scott

04gsxr600 · 09-17-2004, 03:49 PM

alright so I now see all the issue with this thing so I feel that i might not jump on the band wagon for it. My 04 easily lofts the tire in first and second rather easily. !st is definately easy second is all about where my fat ass is on the seat

. Well thanks for the help guys...Daryl

velocity_101 · 09-18-2004, 09:54 PM

If you want a link.. here's one.

http://ivansperformanceproducts.com/tre.htm

Jason · 09-18-2004, 10:36 PM

Don't waste your time on the TRE. I had one and it did nothing, Just map your fuel injection properly.

steeltoe · 09-21-2004, 02:03 AM

Dude go to gixxer.com. Tons of info here as well http://81x.com/WTviewProject.aspx?ProjectID=51753

I just did this myself, hardwired the resistor in. IMMEDIATE big difference in the bike. So, so much smoother in throttle response. Biggest change is engine breaking is half what it was. Part throttle cruising in second and third much smoother. I suppose it varies person to person but I am very pleased with the result. Probably the easiest, cheapest mod you can do.

96SNAKE/03RR · 09-21-2004, 03:26 PM

Over at TLPlanet, we've discussed this mod many times. I kind of got lucky with my 03, since it doesn't really have any hesitation in the lower rpm's and gears.

I've also heard that this mod will raise your rpm's between upshifts and in neutral since the bike always thinks you're in 5th or 6th gear.

zukman · 09-21-2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steeltoe

Dude go to gixxer.com. Tons of info here as well http://81x.com/WTviewProject.aspx?ProjectID=51753

I just did this myself, hardwired the resistor in. IMMEDIATE big difference in the bike. So, so much smoother in throttle response. Biggest change is engine breaking is half what it was. Part throttle cruising in second and third much smoother. I suppose it varies person to person but I am very pleased with the result. Probably the easiest, cheapest mod you can do.

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!