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Yeah he demanded the same thing 4 or 5 times within 4 seconds. That is a singular demand and should be treated as such, given the scenario.
Each time the cop asked the guy in the car to step out, he gives the cop the same response 4 or 5 times...so it should not be treated as a singular demand.
What this all comes down to is that It is my opinion that these were 4 or 5 seperate requests, and your opinion that it was one request. You are entitled to your own opinion, I just do not agree.
I will give you my perspective from a police officers point of view. The suspect was argumentative from the time the officer approached him. I wasn't there so I won't speculate on why the officer ordered the guy out of the car, maybe he saw something in the car that was an officer safety concern, maybe he saw drugs or contraband, I don't know. As far as the guy not exiting the car when told to he can be charged with failure to obey the commands of law enforcement officer. Right before the officer struck him you can see the subject push the officer or at least attempt to. At that point it became an officer safety issue, so I am guessing that's why the officer hit him. Granted better tactics could have been used on the officers part, but at that point maybe the officer feared for his safety. As far as the passing on the double yellow line as someone on here already pointed out most in car video systems come on when the overheads are activated. Unless there is a departmental policy saying the officer has to run code he didn't have to. I run with lights and no sirens all the time on routine traffic stops. Until you guys have actually pinned on the badge and strapped on a gun don't speculate.
I will give you my perspective from a police officers point of view. The suspect was argumentative from the time the officer approached him. I wasn't there so I won't speculate on why the officer ordered the guy out of the car, maybe he saw something in the car that was an officer safety concern, maybe he saw drugs or contraband, I don't know. As far as the guy not exiting the car when told to he can be charged with failure to obey the commands of law enforcement officer. Right before the officer struck him you can see the subject push the officer or at least attempt to. At that point it became an officer safety issue, so I am guessing that's why the officer hit him. Granted better tactics could have been used on the officers part, but at that point maybe the officer feared for his safety. As far as the passing on the double yellow line as someone on here already pointed out most in car video systems come on when the overheads are activated. Unless there is a departmental policy saying the officer has to run code he didn't have to. I run with lights and no sirens all the time on routine traffic stops. Until you guys have actually pinned on the badge and strapped on a gun don't speculate.
Uh oh. You must be new here. You'll find your opinion, no matter how accurate you are, means little to several on here.
I will give you my perspective from a police officers point of view. The suspect was argumentative from the time the officer approached him. I wasn't there so I won't speculate on why the officer ordered the guy out of the car, maybe he saw something in the car that was an officer safety concern, maybe he saw drugs or contraband, I don't know. As far as the guy not exiting the car when told to he can be charged with failure to obey the commands of law enforcement officer. Right before the officer struck him you can see the subject push the officer or at least attempt to. At that point it became an officer safety issue, so I am guessing that's why the officer hit him. Granted better tactics could have been used on the officers part, but at that point maybe the officer feared for his safety. As far as the passing on the double yellow line as someone on here already pointed out most in car video systems come on when the overheads are activated. Unless there is a departmental policy saying the officer has to run code he didn't have to. I run with lights and no sirens all the time on routine traffic stops. Until you guys have actually pinned on the badge and strapped on a gun don't speculate.
I guess you have better eyes then I do, or that of the news channels I saw this on. Everything I read / saw about this the cops description of what happened does not match up at all to what is on Video. If I was on a Jury I would say not guilty. If I was there in public and saw what happened, I would go to court...maybe it be for the Cop maybe for the guy in the car...all depending on what I saw.
First off I would never open my door for a cop, it is called if your window is broken get that shit fixed.
i dont know why the beating was necessary... the cop had backup, and it's the cops job to keep citizens safe. abusive cops are domestic terrorists in my book
Nope. The sole reason 750 makes these threads every day of the week is to get the message out that yes, cops ARE here to protect and serve; Protect and serve THE LAW. Cops dont have to protect shit otherwise.
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Zx is correct, and the courts have agreed. The Police are not responsible for the safety of the citizens. People are responsible for their own safety. The police are only responsible for enforcing the law.
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