Gun Nuts - is a gun show worth it?

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by MrR2009

I will NEVER I repeat NEVER encourage someone to keep a weapon with a round in the chamber. Thats a great way for an accidental shooting to happen. If it has a clip, I keep the clip out until I need it, it takes all of 3 seconds to insert a clip and charge a rifle. If its a revolver that I'm using for home defense, I would leave the top chamber empty. (Had a teacher this year take a considerable chunk out of his leg when his .44 fell out of the holster he was carrying in his hand.) as for a shotgun at least don't put a round in the chamber. Also when he's old enough (I assume its a he) teach your kid about the dangers of firearms, then teach him how to identify if a weapon is loaded and to check every time he picks one up. Then teach him how to effectively use that weapon. That will keep you alot safer than worrying about somebody breaking in.

Ok although I dont preach the one in the chamber while in the house, I dont understand the rest of what your saying, maybe if your afraid of the gun and do not know how to properly handle it you shouldnt have it?

[DEMIAN1970]

You need to move to CA, you're starting to tarnish the image I have of TX and its residents.

[MrR2009]

I'm saying if hes going to keep a loaded gun and its going to be easily accessible to make sure his kid doesn't hurt himself with it when hes older.

and Demian I love my guns, in fact I've told my family to super glue them in my hands when I die so that way no one can pry them from my cold dead hands.

[636blurr]

Its amazing how things have changed, used to be guns were kept under the bed or in the closet, every now and then you may have ran into someone who had one of those cheezy wooden gun cabinets that really didnt do anything.
Now people want you to "keep your gun locked up, clip out of it ect" how about some parenting? We didnt mess with the weopons becouse we got our ass beat if we did.

[Teej]

Originally Posted by MrR2009

I will NEVER I repeat NEVER encourage someone to keep a weapon with a round in the chamber. Thats a great way for an accidental shooting to happen. If it has a clip, I keep the clip out until I need it, it takes all of 3 seconds to insert a clip and charge a rifle.

Magazine. Not clip.

A clip is used to load magazines.

YouTube - Difference Between a Magazine and a Clip

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Sorry to "go there" but that's like someone calling every engine a "V-" something...like saying a 600RR or a Boxster runs on a "V4"...

[MrR2009]

636 thats what I'm saying discipline children about guns. (my dad did have the cheesy wooden gun cabinet, which I have now inherited lol.)

and teej

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by Teej

Magazine. Not clip.

A clip is used to load magazines.

YouTube - Difference Between a Magazine and a Clip

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Sorry to "go there" but that's like someone calling every engine a "V-" something...like saying a 600RR or a Boxster runs on a "V4"...

Actually no the term clip's have been used since the early part of the 19th century.
its common terminalogy to call a magazine a clip, so what? Its slang, get over it.

You can even and find that he indeed could be correct, or you can find that he is not.
Meaning of CLIP
Pronunciation: klip


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WordNet Dictionary

Definition: [n] a sharp slanting blow; "he gave me a clip on the ear"
[n] the act of clipping or snipping
[n] a metal frame or container holding cartridges; can be inserted into an automatic gun
[n] any of various small fasteners used to hold loose articles together
[n] an article of jewelry that can be clipped onto a hat or dress
[n] an instance or single occasion for some event; "this time he succeeded"; "he called four times"; "he could do ten at a clip"
[v] terminate or abbreviate before its intended or proper end or its full extent; "My speech was cut short"; "Personal freedom is curtailed in many countries"
[v] cultivate, tend, and cut back the growth of"dress the plants in the garden"
[v] attach with a clip; "clip the papers together"
[v] sever or remove by pinching or snipping; "nip off the flowers"
[v] run at a moderately swift pace

Encarta


clip [ klip ]


noun (plural clips)

Definition:

1. gripping device: a device that grips or clasps loose things together or that holds things firmly ( often used in combination )


2. arms bullet holder: a container for bullets, slotted directly into an automatic firearm


3. jewellery piece of jewelry: a piece of jewelry with a gripping device that attaches to clothing


4. football illegal blocking: in football, the act or an instance of illegally blocking a player on an opposing team by hitting that player with the body from behind



And we can even use the NRA website


CLIP
A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

And from the Midway website.

Definition for "cartridge clip" : Technically, a clip is any type of cartridge-holding device used to load magazines (either fixed or detachable). Common usage, though, frequently interchanges the term 'clip' with 'magazine'. The first successful cartridge clip was invented by Austrian engineer Ferdinand von Mannlicher. Also known as a 'stripper clip' in military jargon, and as a 'charger' in England. See also: magazine


So fuck it, close enough

[Teej]

Originally Posted by 636blurr

You can even and find that he indeed could be correct, or you can find that he is not.

How do you think I found that video? Not like I had it on speed dial.

As for google...try it yourself.

+magazine +clip - Google Search

Dictionaries describe the common usage of words even when incorrect. I'm sure it won't be long before there's an entry for "sick" that describes something as very skillfull or well done since that's rapidly becoming common usage "Dude, that was a sick ride you had down that half pipe!"

But...whatever... so goes the de-evolution of the English language right along with apostrophe abuse.

[Fazer6PA]

Why not have the best of both worlds?

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This thing looks awesome. Haven't shot one yet but the video is pretty impressive. Rifled barrel keeps shot shell confined. My brother-in-law has a gun shop and has sold 35 of these already. They seem to be a hot item. I realize that it out of your price range but you can keep this lil fucker in the nightstand!

[TheInfamous]

a three inch shell of #4 buck will leave the same wound track as getting shot 19 times with a .50 ae. 12 times with a .50 ae in a 2-3/4 inch shell.

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by Teej

How do you think I found that video? Not like I had it on speed dial.

As for google...try it yourself.

+magazine +clip - Google Search

Dictionaries describe the common usage of words even when incorrect. I'm sure it won't be long before there's an entry for "sick" that describes something as very skillfull or well done since that's rapidly becoming common usage "Dude, that was a sick ride you had down that half pipe!"

But...whatever... so goes the de-evolution of the English language right along with apostrophe abuse.

Becouse language evolves my friend. Western English differes significantly from queens English.
So thats why I dont get why people get all excited over little things like that.

But since we are being technical woudl you like to cover the definition of Missile as well?

mis·sile Audio Help /ˈmɪsəl or, especially Brit., -aɪl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mis-uhl or, especially Brit., -ahyl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an object or weapon for throwing, hurling, or shooting, as a stone, bullet, or arrow.
2. guided missile.
3. ballistic missile.
–adjective 4. capable of being thrown, hurled, or shot, as from the hand or a gun.
5. used or designed for discharging missiles.

[Teej]

Originally Posted by TheInfamous

a three inch shell of #4 buck will leave the same wound track as getting shot 19 times with a .50 ae. 12 times with a .50 ae in a 2-3/4 inch shell.

Not quite.

#4 buck is .30 inch, not .50. And it won't expand like a JHP (and I'd expect you to use JHP since we're comparing a home defense situation here) would.

The .50 starts at roughly .50 inch (I don't know the exact specs of the caliber and many calibers are chosen for name rather than actual measurements...) and should get bigger when it hits something.

(as to measurements - keep in mind that 9mm, .357 and .38 all fire the same diameter bullet...or at least within .001...despite the fact that there's about a .026 spread in the exact measurement of "9mm" versus ".38" and ".357" is within that range.)

[636blurr]

Teej your just gonna hate me
but your way off again.

#4 buck is in the .24

00 buck is in the .333

Hornady


He also was refering to after being nailed by multiple pellets

[Teej]

Originally Posted by 636blurr

Teej your just gonna hate me
but your way off again.

#4 buck is in the .24

Nope to both.

I'm off a little bit (.06...which is still worlds closer than being .26 off...)...but I don't hate you and "again" is pushing it. I've not been "way off" anything. Slightly off, yes - I don't know everything. But not "way off".

Nice edit, by the way. I saw where you had #4 as being 20 cal before the edit.

[636blurr]

Originally Posted by Teej

Nope to both.

I'm off a little bit (.06...which is still worlds closer than being .26 off...)...but I don't hate you and "again" is pushing it. I've not been "way off" anything. Slightly off, yes - I don't know everything. But not "way off".

It is a significant differnence if you were to put them both side by side.
Your the first person I know that put the number four buck in the .30 cal range, so that puts you way off to me