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Old 05-26-2008, 11:50 PM   #196 (permalink)
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Actually I haven't since I live my life just like anyone else. I don't do anything differently than anyone else. Only thing the bible requires you to do is accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior so once again you're wrong and yea haha you'll be in good company eh. I doubt you'll be saying that when you're consumed with fire but then again you're such a hardass and smarty that you'll outsmart

Uh why would he send you to hell, apparently you don't know the bible. Its because it has nothing to do with works, it has only to do with acceptance of him. Don't like it don't do it but once again if I'm right you'll end up regretting it for eternity and if you're right I've lost absolutely nothing.
Baby Jesus cries when we talk about religion outside the P&R forum.

Seriously, only Christians go to heaven??? No Muslims? No Jews? Jesus was a Jew. God made his only son a Jew. Moses was a Jew. David, too. David Lee Roth.

Muslims pray to the same god as Jews and Christians. What about Buddhists? Or Hindus? Or Sikhs? What about babies in the forests of Borneo? No room for them?

What about other kinds of Christians, different from yourself? I had a friend who is a devout Baptist. He insists that only Baptists go to heaven. What??? No Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Catholics? No Mennonites, 7th Day Adventists, Swedenborgianisms, Irvingites, Hussites, Lollards, Waldensians? No Mormons (well, ok... they're kind of like Scientologists), Amish, Quakers, Shakers, or Bakers?

No snake handling Pentacosts? No peyote imbibing shamans? Rastafarians, Zoroastrianis? Only Baptists, huh? That's pretty puritanical.

Oh wait, no Puritans, either..
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Well when you can prove noah didn't have an ark I'll believe you till then you're just as stupid as you claim I am since you simply say its false because you choose not to believe, there is no proof it didn't happen but there is evidence and writings saying it did so in your all thinking scientific way you're the idiot who is to stupid to admit there is more going for the bible than against it.
The story of the great flood and Noah's ark can be scientificially disproven about 3 or 4 different ways. I also LOL at you for believing the story and not being familiar with the common tactics for disproving it.

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Yes, the question originally being can you imagine a book with a title like that. Not can you imagine articles, scientific or other. The question isn't even asking or implying that proof be offered.
Oh, I see, you're under the silly assumption that Darwin wasn't writing a scientific theses, but was trying to get something through DoubleDay.

You're still mistaken.

Here's a book about Geography written in the late 1700, just for your perusal.

Lamson Library » Geography Made Easy : Being An Abridgement Of The American Universal Geography, Containing Astronomical Geography, Discovery And General Description Of America, General View Of The United States, Particular Accounts Of The United Sta

It's called, "Geography Made Easy : Being An Abridgement Of The American Universal Geography, Containing Astronomical Geography, Discovery And General Description Of America, General View Of The United States, Particular Accounts Of The United States Of America, And Of All The Kingdoms, States And Republics In The Known World, In Regard To Their Boundaries, Extent, Rivers, Lakes, Mountains, Productions, Population, Character, Government, Trade, Manufactures, Curiosities, History, &c. : To Which Is Added, An Improved Chronological Table Of Remarkable Events, From The Creation To The Present Time, Illustrated With Maps Of The Countries Described : Calculated Particularly For The Use And Improvement Of Schools And Academies In The United States Of America"

Can you imagine! There must not be any such thing as geography.
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And I'm going to be sure to add the 1853 masterpiece "The History of the Wars of New-England with the Eastern Indians, or a Narrative of Their Continued Perfidy and Cruelty, From the 10th of August, 1703, To the Peace renewed 13th of July, 1713, And from the 25th of July, 1722, To their Submission 15th December, 1725, Which was ratified August 5th, 1726m" to my bookshelf, soon.

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Your answer to the question being no. Answering the question asked isn't as fun, I know.
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Your answer to the question being no. Answering the question asked isn't as fun, I know.
You mean..

"Yes, the question originally being can you imagine a book with a title like that."

And not only can I imagine it, it exists. As do many other period books with ridiculously convoluted and long titles.

The notion that the title of the book is some indicator of the credibility of the content is insane. It's not like "Origin of Species" was called "The Magical Means by Which All of Existence Poofed Into Being."
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"On the origin of species by means of natural selection or the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life". (that was the original title). Can you imagine if a scientist would publish a book today with such a title?
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You mean..

"Yes, the question originally being can you imagine a book with a title like that."

And not only can I imagine it, it exists. As do many other period books with ridiculously convoluted and long titles.

The notion that the title of the book is some indicator of the credibility of the content is insane. It's not like "Origin of Species" was called "The Magical Means by Which All of Existence Poofed Into Being."
That'd be like an F for not answering the question asked.
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That'd be like an F for not answering the question asked.
Oh, I see. Nature isn't a publisher now. You're struggling to win an argument you're losing. When you're deep in a hole like you are, you aught to just stop digging.

But lets play some more, anyway, because you're entertaining.

Darwin wasn't writing a book (in the modern sense). He was writing a scientific thesis. Scientists and other educated folks (historians and geographers, for example) often used longer titles in their works. It was absolutely unusual. I have demonstrated that fact. Do you deny it?

Were Darwin alive today, he'd be writing for peer reviewed press. And as I've already demonstrated, those kinds of descriptive titles not only exist in scientific journals, they are the norm. I have demonstrated that fact. Do you deny it?


But, to follow on with the OP's (and your) original absurdity, lets follow it to it's logical conclusion.

Do you suppose a publisher today would publish some crazy crap like

"'Tis deeply sworn. Sweet, leave me here a while,
My spirits grow dull, and fain I would beguile
The tedious day with sleep."

Hamlet must suck!
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The mathematical probability of life evolving on other planets, with a temporary tangent on judging books by their covers.
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"On the origin of species by means of natural selection or the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life". (that was the original title). Can you imagine if a scientist would publish a book today with such a title?
That's the question asked. Scientists, believe it or not, have had books published. In both fiction and non-fiction categories.

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Darwin wasn't writing a book (in the modern sense). He was writing a scientific thesis. Scientists and other educated folks (historians and geographers, for example) often used longer titles in their works. It was absolutely unusual. I have demonstrated that fact. Do you deny it?
You have not demonstrated that long titles were absolutely unusual. However, even if you meant it was usual, or even expected, the question states clearly that we are talking in the modern sense. Where book means book. In the modern sense.

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Were Darwin alive today, he'd be writing for peer reviewed press. And as I've already demonstrated, those kinds of descriptive titles not only exist in scientific journals, they are the norm. I have demonstrated that fact. Do you deny it?
Were Darwin alive today, he wouldn't be publishing a book with a long title because he'd be busy trying to create enough long titles that would fit into breaking 1,000 pages of thesis into many articles. So, no, I don't deny it, but what does it have to do with a book, or the original question? Plenty, if your answer to that question is no.

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But, to follow on with the OP's (and your) original absurdity, lets follow it to it's logical conclusion.

Do you suppose a publisher today would publish some crazy crap like

"'Tis deeply sworn. Sweet, leave me here a while,
My spirits grow dull, and fain I would beguile
The tedious day with sleep."

Hamlet must suck!
How have you twisted this around to say that there shouldn't be any long passages within the pages of a titled manuscript/play/book/whatever?
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"Yes, the question originally being can you imagine a book with a title like that."

And not only can I imagine it, it exists. As do many other period books with ridiculously convoluted and long titles.

The notion that the title of the book is some indicator of the credibility of the content is insane. It's not like "Origin of Species" was called "The Magical Means by Which All of Existence Poofed Into Being."



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