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Old 04-17-2008, 08:16 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Its funny because these commercials are from racist organizations. Th comercials are toned down but the organizations are all about racism.

I am all about being proud of what you are, nothing wrong with that.
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Your not followed in the department store, pulled over for no reason what so ever, have white women grab there purse as you walk past them. O' and try catching a cab in NYC. The world is totally different on the other side of the coin and I can witness to that.

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Bullshit. I had long hair and rode a Harley in the 1970s. I experienced all that shit.

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You label something BET when it's not been apart of the majority. When you trying to establish a little pride since 40 years ago a black person starting a tv network was unthinkable. White america is the majority. From the richest people, to the leaders of 90% of all major company's and every President we have every had. It is what it is, but it doesn't make it right. And most of the time when you are apart of the majority you don't see the other side of the coin because your not treated differently.

Your not followed in the department store, pulled over for no reason what so ever, have white women grab there purse as you walk past them. O' and try catching a cab in NYC. The world is totally different on the other side of the coin and I can witness to that.

So think before you speak.
And women were not allowed to work certain jobs in America eather. Italians & chinese were treated like dogs and not allowed certain work.

As to your last statement of being pulled over for no reason, join the rest of america where if you have plates from a differnt area your more likly to be pulled over. Or like LDS said ride a cruiser with long hair and be harrassed and treated differntly (I rode a cruiser had hair down to my ass and wore leather) and yup I went thru it too.

So quit yer fuckin whining and be happy your in a place where you have every opportunity TO succeed.
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Your not followed in the department store, pulled over for no reason what so ever, have white women grab there purse as you walk past them. O' and try catching a cab in NYC. The world is totally different on the other side of the coin and I can witness to that.
Actually, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree 100% with you there. Each and every one of these is something I deal with every day (except catching a cab in NYC, since I'm not in NYC). Except it's not just "THEM WHITEYS LOL" that respond that way, it's people of every race.
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And women were not allowed to work certain jobs in America eather. Italians & chinese were treated like dogs and not allowed certain work.

As to your last statement of being pulled over for no reason, join the rest of america where if you have plates from a differnt area your more likly to be pulled over. Or like LDS said ride a cruiser with long hair and be harrassed and treated differntly (I rode a cruiser had hair down to my ass and wore leather) and yup I went thru it too.

So quit yer fuckin whining and be happy your in a place where you have every opportunity TO succeed.
Oh the sheltered and Naive world you live in Blurr, it must be pretty through those glowing glass windows.

Do you know the 1/32nd rule? How about the federal law that states the government decides your "race"? I think you should take a psych course or an American Histories course because believe it or not there is a racial gradient in play. There are other gradients that work along with this but since this is on race, I'll state the obvious. In the grand scheme of things in the development of this nation thus far....anything is better than bein black. Sorry to state the truth, but that's how it was and still THOUGH less apparent, how it is.

As for cruisers, that was HOW LONG AGO? Come on now, cruisers get away with hella shit now and days. A sportbike enthusiast wouldve been a better comparison. Plus, this shit is PERSISTENT! When my fam moved to CT the cops came through for two weeks straight and rolled slow past my crib, same out here in West Chester.

I'm sorry but to say that someone is whining simply because they are stating that something is wrong with this country is stupid. If this holds true, you're the biggest whiner in here.
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do you benefit from this country? Are there opportunities? You never seemed like the type that let anything hold you back.
You have more insentives for colleges, you have your own TV, RADIO and Awards. There are more blacks on Welfare than any other race. That alone tells me who the goddamn whiners are.
I love the black excuse, then you have people like Rice, keys, the list goes on and on of successfull black people who said fuck it and made it. If a black person tries to succeed, he is called a uncle tom from his own people.
Shit the second leading cause of death for a single black male under 24 is murder, by another black person.
Do like bill cosby says, quit whining about the past and get your shit together.
You are your own worst enemy.
Oh yea, and I did not get a job for a major insurance company becouse they initially thought I was part black, when they found out I was not, it was bye bye.

I would like to add one more thing, in area's such as Vegas with a high minority rate, the Mexicans are working, and they are robbed by the black gang bangers. But dumb people want to get rid of the Illigals, why? they are willing to work. I say get rid of all the trash thats robbing them and milking the fucking system, white black or whatever in the hell the case may be.
Call me a whiner all you want, fact is I didnt have much, I spent alot of time sleeping in my car on job sites, and alot more time sleeping on couches with no place to really be. I picked my ass up, am on my second Buisness, and have a few houses.
Waa waa cry cry.

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Really so maybe africa, holds more opportunities for you? Or do you benefit from this country?
You have more insentives for colleges, you have your own TV, RADIO and Awards. There are more blacks on Welfare than any other race. That alone tells me who the goddamn whiners are.
I love the black excuse, then you have people like Rice, keys, the list goes on and on of successfull black people who said fuck it and made it. If a black person tries to succeed, he is called a uncle tom from his own people.
Shit the second leading cause of death for a single black male under 24 is murder, by another black person.
Do like bill cosby says, quit whining about the past and get your shit together.
You are your own worst enemy.
Oh yea, and I did not get a job for a major insurance company becouse they initially thought I was part black, when they found out I was not, it was bye bye.
Number one if be careful with that africa shit because I AM Nigerian. And I AM first generation.

1. Africa has a destabilized foundation, long onset by different factions of outside influence mainly European and etc. Therefore it will be a very LONG time until stability sets in. Take a look at Iraq and watch it for the next 40 yrs as a prime example.

2. Incentives are mainly for those in the GHETTOS and ARE TO SAY "SORRY WE DIDN'T LET YA'LL NIGGAS GET EDUCATIONS SOONER"

3. That is a MYTH that the black population is the one primarily on welfare. Sorry buddy believe it or not it is actually RURAL WHITE AMERICA that is on welfare and receives the most breaks because FARMING doesn't PRODUCE ENOUGH MONEY. Just because you hear black people on welfare doesn't mean it's predominantly them.

4.And you are whining right now like the lil bitch you are.

5. There is no such thing as the black excuse but there is such thing as the white exemption or should I call it "right".

6.The second leading cause of death for black males under 24 is not murder thank you very much. And if it is support it with evidence.

7. I like Bill Cosby actually. And if you have read any of my other posts you would understand that I'm not the "Typical" "Black" guy. So I believe your arguments are from a perspective of a disenchanted middle aged white male that is burnt out and can not hold his own in an ever changing world. So therefore you seek to vent your frustrations on minorities with absurdly inaccurate facts and fallacies.

Basically, you should shut the fuck up. Look within yourself and find out what is wrong with YOU before you go and tell the rest of a "RACE" how they should behave, act, and think. I am not stating that black people have suffered more attrocities than any other race. I am simply stating that you are an inaccurate, fallacious ass hole who seeks to spread his stupid and retarded views on the world much similar to that of a modern day Strom Thurman.
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P.S- I am not racist or anything like that AT ALL. I believe in EQUAL opportunity and I love this country, but this country is FAR from perfect and FARRRR from equal.

I can see this world from everyone's perspective and understand it. I may not like it, approve of it, or even wanna do it sometimes. But ultimately I do and I understand and thats more than you can ever do Blurr.
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Number one if be careful with that africa shit because I AM Nigerian. And I AM first generation.

1. Africa has a destabilized foundation, long onset by different factions of outside influence mainly European and etc.

2. Incentives are mainly for those in the GHETTOS and ARE TO SAY "SORRY WE DIDN'T LET YA'LL NIGGAS GET EDUCATIONS SOONER"

3. That is a MYTH that the black population is the one primarily on welfare. Sorry buddy believe it or not it is actually RURAL WHITE AMERICA that is on welfare and recieves the most breaks because FARMING doesn't PRODUCE ENOUGH MONEY. Just because you hear black people on welfare doesn't mean it's predominantly them.

4.And you are whining right now like the lil bitch you are.

5. There is no such thing as the black excuse but there is such thing as the white exemption or should I call it "right".

6.The second leading cause of death for black males under 24 is not murder thank you very much. And if it is support it with evidence.

7. I like Bill Cosby actually. And if you have read any of my other posts you would understand that I'm not the "Typical" "Black" guy. So I believe your arguments are from a perspective of a disenchanted middle aged white male that is burnt out and can not hold his own in an ever changing world. So therefore you seek to vent your frustrations on minorities with absurdly inaccurate facts and fallacies.

Basically, you should shut the fuck up. Look within yourself and find out what is wrong with YOU before you go and tell the rest of a "RACE" how they should behave, act, and think. I am not stating that black people have suffered more attrocities than any other race. I am simply stating that you are an inaccurate, fallacious ass hole who seeks to spread his stupid and retarded views on the world much similar to that of a modern day Strom Thurman.
Oh fucking please redline, when have I been racist? Hell I dated a girl from Liberia for fuck sakes.
When you asked for tips on fighting did I go on and give you advice or say your a stupid nigger and you couldnt understand?
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"In reality, the shorter life expectancy of African Americans is due to their poorer health status. According to a recent report by the National Center for Health Statistics, the overall mortality for African Americans was 31 percent higher than for whites in 2002. The report highlights that the age-adjusted death rates for African Americans exceeded those for whites by 41 percent for stroke, 30 percent for heart disease, 25 percent for cancer, and more than 750 percent for HIV/AIDS. Homicide was the leading cause of death among young black men, which contributed to their lower life expectancy."

Again redline, you seem like the kind of guy who wont let anything hold you back, why are you letting this?

This article is interesting and you should read it.

Destruction in black America is self-inflicted - The Boston Globe

Destruction in black America is self-inflicted
By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | September 5, 2007

DEBATING capital punishment at an Ivy League university a few years ago, I was confronted with the claim that since death sentences are more often meted out in cases where the victim is white, the death penalty must be racially biased. It's a spurious argument, I replied. Whites commit fewer than half of all murders in the United States, yet more whites than blacks are sentenced to death and more whites than blacks are executed each year. If there is racial bias in the system, it clearly isn't in favor of whites.

But if you choose to focus on the race of victims, I added, remember that nearly all black homicide is intraracial - more than nine out of 10 black murder victims in the United States are killed by black murderers. So applying the death penalty in more cases where the victim is black would mean sending more black men to death row.

After the debate, a young black woman accosted me indignantly. Ninety-plus percent of black blood is shed by black hands? What about all the victims of white supremacists? Hadn't I heard of lynching? Hadn't I heard of James Byrd, who died so horribly in Jasper, Texas? When I assured her that Byrd's murder by whites was utterly untypical of most black homicide, she was dubious.

I thought of that young woman when I read recently about James Ford Seale, the former Mississippi Klansman sentenced last month to three life terms in prison for his role in murdering two black teenagers 43 years ago. The killing of Charles Moore and Henry Dee in 1964 was one of several unsolved civil-rights-era crimes that prosecutors in the South have reopened in recent years. Seale's trial was a vivid reminder of the days when racial contempt was a deadly fact of life in much of the country. His sentence proclaims even more vividly the transformation of America since then. White racism, once such a murderous force, is now associated mostly with feeble has-beens.

Yet many Americans, like the woman at my debate, still seem to view racial questions through an antediluvian haze. To them, white bigotry remains a clear and present danger, and the reason so many black Americans die before their time.

But the data aren't in dispute. Though outrage over "racism" is ever fashionable, African-Americans have long had far less to fear from the violence of racist whites than from the mayhem of the black underclass.

"Do you realize that the leading killer of young black males is young black males?" asked Secretary of Health and Human Services Louis Sullivan 16 years ago. "As a black man and a father of three, this really shakes me to the core of my being."

From Georgia Congressman John Lewis, a veteran of the civil rights movement, came a similar cry of anguish. "Nothing in the long history of blacks in America," he lamented in 1994, "suggests the terrible destruction blacks are visiting upon each other today."

Happily, crime rates have declined from their 1990s peak. But it remains that the worst destruction in black America is self-inflicted.

In a new study, the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics confirms once again that almost half the people murdered in the United States each year are black, and 93 percent of black homicide victims are killed by someone of their own race. (For white homicide victims, the figure is 85 percent.) In other words, of the estimated 8,000 African-Americans murdered in 2005, more than 7,400 were cut down by other African-Americans. Though blacks account for just one-eighth of the US population, the BJS reports, they are six times more likely than whites to be victimized by homicide -- and seven times more likely to commit homicide.

Such huge disproportions don't just happen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously warned 40 years ago that the collapse of black family life would mean rising chaos and crime in the black community. Today, as many as 70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock and 60 percent are raised in fatherless households. And as reams of research confirm, children raised without married parents and intact, stable families are more likely to engage in antisocial behavior.

High rates of black violent crime are a national tragedy, but it is the law-abiding black majority that suffers from them most. "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life," Jesse Jackson said in 1993, "than to walk down the street and hear footsteps . . . then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved."

It isn't an insoluble problem. Americans overcame white racism; they can overcome black crime. But the first step, as always, is to face the facts.
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P.S- I am not racist or anything like that AT ALL. I believe in EQUAL opportunity and I love this country, but this country is FAR from perfect and FARRRR from equal.

I can see this world from everyone's perspective and understand it. I may not like it, approve of it, or even wanna do it sometimes. But ultimately I do and I understand and thats more than you can ever do Blurr.

No place no where is equal, Nobody ever is, if we were all Equal then you would not have Oprah a billionare and her audience a bunch of middleclass soccer moms.
If we were all equal then you would not have a bill gates, you would not have an edison.
I can go on, but you get the picture.
Your a capable man Redline. Hate me all you want. I dont care, but you have the ability to do more with your life if you so choose. And hell, I didnt think your life was that bad to begin with.


and yup, this country does have alot of problems, but WE all have the ability to change it. first off, quit arguing over stupid shit like this for fuck sake.
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Oh fucking please redline, when have I been racist? Hell I dated a girl from Liberia for fuck sakes.
When you asked for tips on fighting did I go on and give you advice or say your a stupid nigger and you couldnt understand?
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"In reality, the shorter life expectancy of African Americans is due to their poorer health status. According to a recent report by the National Center for Health Statistics, the overall mortality for African Americans was 31 percent higher than for whites in 2002. The report highlights that the age-adjusted death rates for African Americans exceeded those for whites by 41 percent for stroke, 30 percent for heart disease, 25 percent for cancer, and more than 750 percent for HIV/AIDS. Homicide was the leading cause of death among young black men, which contributed to their lower life expectancy."

Again redline, you seem like the kind of guy who wont let anything hold you back, why are you letting this?

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Destruction in black America is self-inflicted
By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | September 5, 2007

DEBATING capital punishment at an Ivy League university a few years ago, I was confronted with the claim that since death sentences are more often meted out in cases where the victim is white, the death penalty must be racially biased. It's a spurious argument, I replied. Whites commit fewer than half of all murders in the United States, yet more whites than blacks are sentenced to death and more whites than blacks are executed each year. If there is racial bias in the system, it clearly isn't in favor of whites.

But if you choose to focus on the race of victims, I added, remember that nearly all black homicide is intraracial - more than nine out of 10 black murder victims in the United States are killed by black murderers. So applying the death penalty in more cases where the victim is black would mean sending more black men to death row.

After the debate, a young black woman accosted me indignantly. Ninety-plus percent of black blood is shed by black hands? What about all the victims of white supremacists? Hadn't I heard of lynching? Hadn't I heard of James Byrd, who died so horribly in Jasper, Texas? When I assured her that Byrd's murder by whites was utterly untypical of most black homicide, she was dubious.

I thought of that young woman when I read recently about James Ford Seale, the former Mississippi Klansman sentenced last month to three life terms in prison for his role in murdering two black teenagers 43 years ago. The killing of Charles Moore and Henry Dee in 1964 was one of several unsolved civil-rights-era crimes that prosecutors in the South have reopened in recent years. Seale's trial was a vivid reminder of the days when racial contempt was a deadly fact of life in much of the country. His sentence proclaims even more vividly the transformation of America since then. White racism, once such a murderous force, is now associated mostly with feeble has-beens.

Yet many Americans, like the woman at my debate, still seem to view racial questions through an antediluvian haze. To them, white bigotry remains a clear and present danger, and the reason so many black Americans die before their time.

But the data aren't in dispute. Though outrage over "racism" is ever fashionable, African-Americans have long had far less to fear from the violence of racist whites than from the mayhem of the black underclass.

"Do you realize that the leading killer of young black males is young black males?" asked Secretary of Health and Human Services Louis Sullivan 16 years ago. "As a black man and a father of three, this really shakes me to the core of my being."

From Georgia Congressman John Lewis, a veteran of the civil rights movement, came a similar cry of anguish. "Nothing in the long history of blacks in America," he lamented in 1994, "suggests the terrible destruction blacks are visiting upon each other today."

Happily, crime rates have declined from their 1990s peak. But it remains that the worst destruction in black America is self-inflicted.

In a new study, the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics confirms once again that almost half the people murdered in the United States each year are black, and 93 percent of black homicide victims are killed by someone of their own race. (For white homicide victims, the figure is 85 percent.) In other words, of the estimated 8,000 African-Americans murdered in 2005, more than 7,400 were cut down by other African-Americans. Though blacks account for just one-eighth of the US population, the BJS reports, they are six times more likely than whites to be victimized by homicide -- and seven times more likely to commit homicide.

Such huge disproportions don't just happen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously warned 40 years ago that the collapse of black family life would mean rising chaos and crime in the black community. Today, as many as 70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock and 60 percent are raised in fatherless households. And as reams of research confirm, children raised without married parents and intact, stable families are more likely to engage in antisocial behavior.

High rates of black violent crime are a national tragedy, but it is the law-abiding black majority that suffers from them most. "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life," Jesse Jackson said in 1993, "than to walk down the street and hear footsteps . . . then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved."

It isn't an insoluble problem. Americans overcame white racism; they can overcome black crime. But the first step, as always, is to face the facts.
ONE I AM NOT Calling YOU racist. I was stating that your vantage point was that of a modern day Strom Thurman. If I wanted to call you racist I wouldve. You and I are one in the same, we are both bull headed in our views and belief but eventually compromise.

BUT SOMETIMES BLURR ur are straight ASSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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ONE I AM NOT Calling YOU racist. I was stating that your vantage point was that of a modern day Strom Thurman. If I wanted to call you racist I wouldve. You and I are one in the same, we are both bull headed in our views and belief but eventually compromise.

BUT SOMETIMES BLURR ur are straight ASSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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do you benefit from this country? Are there opportunities? You never seemed like the type that let anything hold you back.
You have more insentives for colleges, you have your own TV, RADIO and Awards. There are more blacks on Welfare than any other race. That alone tells me who the goddamn whiners are.
I love the black excuse, then you have people like Rice, keys, the list goes on and on of successfull black people who said fuck it and made it. If a black person tries to succeed, he is called a uncle tom from his own people.
Shit the second leading cause of death for a single black male under 24 is murder, by another black person.
Do like bill cosby says, quit whining about the past and get your shit together.
You are your own worst enemy.
Oh yea, and I did not get a job for a major insurance company becouse they initially thought I was part black, when they found out I was not, it was bye bye.

I would like to add one more thing, in area's such as Vegas with a high minority rate, the Mexicans are working, and they are robbed by the black gang bangers. But dumb people want to get rid of the Illigals, why? they are willing to work. I say get rid of all the trash thats robbing them and milking the fucking system, white black or whatever in the hell the case may be.
Call me a whiner all you want, fact is I didnt have much, I spent alot of time sleeping in my car on job sites, and alot more time sleeping on couches with no place to really be. I picked my ass up, am on my second Buisness, and have a few houses.
Waa waa cry cry.
wrong, there are more whites on welfare than blacks and hispanics, and hispanics have about the same public assistance stats as blacks. hispanics also have a higher out of wedlock pregnancy and high school drop out rate than blacks.

condi and keys...ok. the sellout thing is not true.

leading cause of blacks 15-24 is blacks? whites have the highest suicide rate and drug use rate. you're point?

the point is, the black middle class is rising, college graduate rates are going up, ect.
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