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There have been an increasing number of police departments allowing their officers to draw blood samples from motorists under suspicion of a DUI/DWI. This takes place on the roadside as opposed to a hospital where there are trained medical professionals. It seems like a recipe for disaster to allow officers to do blood draws when they do not have adequate medical training. This has proven true in Arizona recently where a lawsuit has been filed to stop this practice.

According to Scripps News, a man developed a persistent infection at the site of a blood draw administered by a Pima County sheriff’s deputy. He has filed what is believed to be the first claim in Arizona against the practice, which could put local taxpayers on the hook for any damages.

Arizona law requires that drunken driving suspects submit to a test or lose their license for a year and it’s the officer’s choice, not the driver’s, whether to use a breath or a blood test.

Having officers draw blood has become more common recently because it makes it more difficult for people to defend themselves against DUI/DWI charges. Breathalyzers have proven to be wildly inaccurate and don’t hold up well in court so blood tests have become a more appealing option legally. But when dealing with a medical procedure like a blood draw, the focus should be on the well-being of the individual and not making sure the District Attorney can get a conviction. Officers without adequate medical training should not be playing around with people’s health, no matter the legal ramifications.


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I'm sorry, but if i get to a checkpoint and the officer tells me that he is going to draw my blood... Without any medical staff/supervision whatsoever... I will run.

I don't drink and drive/ride anyway... ;)
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I Bet Thos SOBs At MADD Are Behind This.
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Or DOBs? ?? I Guess.
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Nice to see somethings haven't changed in my absence!!!

HERES AN IDEA DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE STUPID and you won't have to worry about it.

i dont, but have been stopped before for suspicion.

and if he had tried to have taken a blood sample from me i would have another charge for assault on a police officer.

i dont necessarily mind needles or drawing blood, but if some cop tries to do that on the roadside i would be upset. whether the driver is drunk or not, i think a blood sample can be handled downtown if necessary.

i understand the effort for enforcement, but stabbing people with needles on the side of highway is going over the line.
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I didn't say I agreed with it, but being stopped and going through SFST's and ACTUALLY being taken to the station for a breath test are two different things. But the simple fact remains, if you don't drink and drive, you have nothing to fear. You will pass the tests, and be sent on your way.
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But the simple fact remains, if you don't drink and drive, you have nothing to fear. You will pass the tests, and be sent on your way.
uhm sorry would have to disagree with you there....
50 DUI cases dropped over improper procedure

test(s) ...yes and why does it now seem to include a non medical proffesional drawing blood ..??
maybe after he just arrested & Handled a cum stained hooker or hobo.. No thanks man.
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I'm sorry, but if i get to a checkpoint and the officer tells me that he is going to draw my blood... Without any medical staff/supervision whatsoever... I will run.

I don't drink and drive/ride anyway... ;)
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Some people while intoxicated still drive perfectly fine. How 'bout we end the effing checkpoints and have cops actually pull people over who drive dangerously.

It's kinda like the cell phone shit. Yeah there are people who completely suck ass at driving w/ a cell phone in their hands, other people (like myself) drive perfectly fine.

Instead of yet another blanket law to restrict everybody because of a few dipshits how 'bout if we actually pull people over that can't drive? What a fucking concept.
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