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Default drinking a glass a wine a day has been linked to bowel cancer

edit: crap ... just saw a major type-o. bowl = BOWEL. ooops, my bad.

so, a glass of wine or a pint of beer a day will help reduce your risk of heart disease ... BUT ... increases your chance of bowl cancer. wow, what a trade off. i hope this is not true.


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Daily glass of wine increases risk of bowel cancer, scientists find
By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor
Published: 31 July 2007

The argument has raged for decades - is a daily alcoholic drink good for you or not? That pint of beeron the way home may set you up for the evening, but does it set you up for life?

Conventional medical wisdom has been that moderate drinking - a pint of beer or a couple of glasses of wine a day - boosts health by cutting the risk of heart disease. But new research has muddied the water. A study published yesterday suggests that a daily pint of beer or large glass of wine increases the risk of bowel cancer by 10 per cent. Two pints or two large glasses of wine increases the risk by 25 per cent, according to the results of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition study, which questioned almost 480,000 people across 10 European countries about their drinking habits.

Cancer and heart charities were left perplexed over how to interpret the findings, published online in the International Journal of Cancer. Weighing up relative risks is tricky and each charity preferred to highlight the dangers or benefits to their chosen disease.

The British Heart Foundation said there was "some evidence" that moderate drinking had a beneficial effect on heart disease, but if it raised the risk of cancer then "it becomes a matter of personal choice".

Cancer Research UK, which part-funded the bowel cancer study, said moderate drinking only caused a small increase in risk. Cat Arney, senior information officer, said: "The key thing is the more you drink the more your risk goes up."

This leaves ordinary drinkers in a difficult position. In addition to bowel cancer, a drink a day is known to increase the risk of breast cancer in women by 7 per cent, and some other cancers. Bowel cancer is the second-most common form of the disease in men and women with 35,000 new cases a year and 16,000 deaths. Breast cancer is the commonest cancer in women with 40,000 new cases and 12,000 deaths. Heart disease and stroke kill more than 200,000 people a year.

A major study published in the British Medical Journal last year found frequent drinking was an effective way of preventing a heart attack - but only if you were a middle-aged man.

Men who drank daily cut their risk of a heart attack by 41 per cent compared with those who drank on only one day a week, who reduced their risk by 7 per cent.

Among women, drinking on one day a week was enough to reduce their risk almost as much as the men - by 36 per cent. Increasing the frequency of their drinking made no difference.

The study was conducted in Denmark among 50,000 men and women aged from 50 to 65. Previous research has suggested that the benefits of regular drinking are confined to people in middle age.

What the studies all agree on is that people who drink some alcohol live longer than those who drink nothing - teetotallers.

Even this, however, is not as simple to interpret as it appears. Critics have argued that people who don't drink often have a reason for being teetotal, such as that they are reformed alcoholics or suffer from an illness that prevents them drinking. So their poorer health may account for their earlier deaths, not their lack of alcohol.

To drink or not to drink? That is the question. Weighing the risks and benefits of alcohol will remain a matter of individual choice. Heart disease carries the higher odds, but many people fear cancer more.

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* Going to the pub is the most popular social pastime in Britain.

* In modest amounts, alcohol is safe and may be beneficial.

* The Government's recommended "safe" limits are three to four units of alcohol a day for a man and two to three units for a woman.

* At least a quarter of men and a fifth of women drink above the recommended safe limits.

* Deaths resulting from excessive drinking have doubled in the past 20 years.
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Ban it. Ban all liqour, wine and beer. What about cancer patients sucking all our money dry? Make them pay, and ban it. Do I want to eat in a restaurant and inhale evaporated alcohol from drinks nearby? NO! Ban it.
Ban drinking in bars too. I like to go to bars and play pool and drink soda. Why must I be exposed to alcoholic vapours? Who knows how much is required to cause cancer?! Ban it.
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Ban it. Ban all liqour, wine and beer. What about cancer patients sucking all our money dry? Make them pay, and ban it. Do I want to eat in a restaurant and inhale evaporated alcohol from drinks nearby? NO! Ban it.
Ban drinking in bars too. I like to go to bars and play pool and drink soda. Why must I be exposed to alcoholic vapours? Who knows how much is required to cause cancer?! Ban it.
You sound like my 12 year old sister. So your crap gets cancer....jk
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You sound like my 12 year old sister. So your crap gets cancer....jk

There is no medical need for people to imbibe alcohol, therefore it is immoral. A drug solely for pleasure? It kills more people every year than all other drugs. Once it's banned the world will be a better place. And there are more non-drinkers than drinkers, so it should be outlawed.
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Uhhh, bowels = shit, colon = shaft the bowels travel through...
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Uhhh, bowels = shit, colon = shaft the bowels travel through...

Witness here the kind of effects I am talking about. This poor youth ruined.
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Health Care Costs of Alcohol


Twenty-five to forty percent of all patients in U.S. general hospital beds (not in maternity or intensive care) are being treated for complications of alcohol-related problems. 1
Annual health care expenditures for alcohol-related problems amount to $22.5 billion. The total cost of alcohol problems is $175.9 billion a year (compared to $114.2 billion for other drug problems and $137 billion for smoking).2
In comparison to moderate and non-drinkers, individuals with a history of heavy drinking have higher health care costs. 3
Untreated alcohol problems waste an estimated $184.6 billion dollars per year in health care, business and criminal justice costs, and cause more than 100,000 deaths. 4
Health care costs related to alcohol abuse are not limited to the user. Children of alcoholics who are admitted to the hospital average 62 percent more hospital days and 29 percent longer stays. 5
Alcohol use by underage drinkers results in $3.7 billion a year in medical care costs due to traffic crashes, violent crime, suicide attempts and other related consequences. The total annual cost of alcohol use by underage youth is $52.8 billion. 6
Alcohol-related car crashes are the number one killer of teens. Alcohol use is also associated with homicides, suicides, and drownings-the next three leading causes of death among youth. 7
Alcohol is the drug most frequently used by 12 to 17 year-olds-and the one that causes the most negative health consequences. More than 4 million adolescents under the legal drinking age consume alcohol in any given month. 8
For an estimate of the costs that alcohol problems may be causing your workplace, and suggestions on what a company can do to identify and treat costly alcohol problems, go to the Alcohol Cost Calculator: http://www.alcoholcostcalculator.org
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So the answer, just like Grandma said, is moderation. Moderation in all things, including moderation. Meaning that most things won't hurt you much if you don't overdo them, many things are good in smaller doses, and even an occasional excess is good now and then.

So drink now and then, don't get drunk often, and don't drive or do other dangerous things while drunk. Follow those rules, and you'll probably die of something else.

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old friend of mine had a 29 yr old brother that just dropped dead one day because he drank too much....had a heart attack and they said it was because the amount of alcohol he consumed in his past years.......so i dont know
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Jesus drank wine he made from water. If such a well respected man and figurehead of Christianity drinks wine, it couldn't be bad.

The argument you are making is that alcohol kills people. The argument that you should be making is that people misusing alcohol kill people. Don't blame a static object for someone's actions. You are fighting yourself in that argument by giving excuses for these people's actions.

Alcohol is also linked to nulifying (or purifying) the liver to where it can not filter the crap out of our body. I don't think that stops anyone from drinking. Infact, I'm downing a Heineken right now.
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They did a study on something in redwine that can keep you young. Was on the news the other day. Problem is that you have to keep drinking Red wine all day long for the effects to work. You'd have the greatest day at work ever!
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woah ... i thought that dude was joking at first, but now i
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Okay then Oh Wise One, wow us with your apparently superior intellect.
"Project_2501 Uhhh, bowels = shit, colon = shaft the bowels travel through... "


bow·el(boul, boul)
n.
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a. The intestine. Often used in the plural.
b. A part or division of the intestine: the large bowel.
2. bowels The interior of something: in the bowels of the ship.
3. bowels Archaic The seat of pity or the gentler emotions.

co·lon 2(kln)
n. pl. co·lons or co·la (-l)
The section of the large intestine extending from the cecum to the rectum.




I suppose you're going with 1 or 2 here

ap·par·ent(-prnt, -pâr-)
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1. Readily seen; visible.
2. Readily understood; clear or obvious.
3. Appearing as such but not necessarily so


Please stop being stupid at your earliest convenience.


Also, someone will have enough drink and figure this thread out. It just hasn't happened yet.
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I'm not sure that going to THOSE lengths to prove your argument is worth making you look like an ass, but it's up to you. However, only a retard or a douchebag would linger on an argument about the general topic of shit.

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A person with a shitty personality that needs to "take themself the fuck down" or "go home and get their fucking shine box." A douchebag usually assumes the form of a hair-gelling pretty-boy but can also be described as an overzealous, pompous, or vexatious asshole that most people wish were killed with a Mortal Kombat fatality.

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