A Mazda Miata - the Way They Should Have Made It! - Page 3

TTsixxer · 02-09-2007, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZQ8Dude

You know how they pull those times? Sidestep the clutch at 8k...screw that, ill buy a car that can make a pass without severely damaging the tranny.

You have no clue what you're talking about. The weakest link on the S2K trannie is the clutch. If anything you'll be replacing the clutch. And like I said, the S2K is not drag racing car, it's a whole lot more complete than a drag racer.

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Its handling is right with a miata or mini...why waste so much money for a tiny bit of performance?

A competent driver will do circles around a mini, the mazdaspeed miata might be neck and neck but I rather drive an S2K than a girlie-looking miata.

Let's see some lap times at the 'ring:

LAPTIMES - Nordschleife (20.832km)

BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52 (Unofficial)
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59 (Unofficial)
Subaru Impreza WRX STi SPEC C (??/2004) 7:59
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 8/1999) 8:03
Lamborghini Diablo GT ( 7/2000) 8:04
Ferrari 575M Maranello (12/2002) 8:05
Ferrari 550 Maranello ( 6/1998) 8:07
Honda NSX-R ( 8/2002) 8:09 (7:56 claimed, link???)
Lamborghini Diablo SV ( 12/1997) 8:09
Ferrari F360 Modena ( 10/1999) 8:09
Donkervoort D8 180R ( 3/2001) 8:10
Chrysler Viper GTS ( 10/1997) 8:10
Mercedes SL55 AMG ( 5/2002) 8:12
Dodge Viper SRT-10 (10/2004) 8:13
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 ( 5/1999) 8:13
AC-Schnitzer-BMW CLS III ( 11/1997) 8:16
Porsche 911 Carrera (10/2001) 8:17
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish ( 1/2003) 8:17
Porsche 911 Carrera ( 1/1998) 8:17
Chevrolet Corvette Com. Edition ( 9/2003) 8:18
Ferrari F355 ( 6/1997) 8:18
BMW Z8 ( 8/2000) 8:18
Audi RS6 ( 9/2002) 8:20
Mercedes C55 AMG ( 7/2004) 8:22
BMW M3 ( 12/2000) 8:22
BMW M Coupe ( 10/1998) 8:22
Aston Martin DB7 GT ( 7/2003) 8:23
Porsche Carrera 4 ( 2/2001) 8:23
Subaru Impreza WRX STi ( 5/2004) 8:24
Mitsubishi Carisma GT EVO VII (11/2002) 8:25
Callaway C12 Coupe ( 4/1999) 8:25
Audi RS4 ( 10/2000) 8:25
Mitsubishi Carisma GT EVO VI ( 11/1999) 8:25
Nissan 350Z (10/2003) 8:26
BMW M5 ( 3/1999) 8:28
Mercedes CLK 55 AMG ( 5/2000) 8:29
Audi S4 Avant (11/2003) 8:29
Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa (10/2002) 8:30
Lotus Exige ( 8/2004) 8:32
BMW Z4 3.0 SMG ( 5/2003) 8:32
BMW M Roadster ( 9/1997) 8:32
Porsche Boxster S ( 12/1999) 8:32
Opel Speedster Turbo ( 4/2004) 8:34
BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i ( 4/2001) 8:34
Brabus-Mercedes C V8 Coupé ( 2/2002) 8:35
Porsche Boxster ( 3/2003) 8:36
BMW M3 SMG ( 3/1997) 8:35
BMW Alpina B3 3.3 ( 7/1999) 8:36
VW Golf R32 ( 2/2003) 8:37
Mercedes C32 AMG ( 9/2001) 8:37
Maserati 3200 GT ( 9/2000) 8:37
Subaru Impreza GT Turbo ( 3/2000) 8:37
Honda NSX ( 8/1997) 8:38
Brabus-Mercedes CLK 5.8 ( 12/1998) 8:38
Mercedes SL500 (12/2001) 8:38
Morgan Aero 8 ( 4/2003) 8:39
Honda S2000 ( 1/2000) 8:39
Chevrolet Corvette ( 7/1997) 8:40
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage ( 9/1999) 8:41
Audi S3 ( 6/1999) 8:41
Audi S4 ( 8/1998) 8:42
Lotus Exige ( 11/2000) 8:42
Honda Civic Type-R (11/2001) 8:47
Renaul Clio Sport V6 ( 7/2001) 8:49
Jaguar XKR Coupe ( 7/1998) 8:49
Audi TT 1.8T quattro ( 11/1998) 8:49
Alpina B10 3.2 ( 4/1998) 8:50
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA ( 6/2002) 8:51
Mercedes Benz C43 AMG ( 3/1998) 8:51
Mercedes CLK 430 ( 9/1998) 8:52
VW Golf GTI ( 1/2002) 8:54
Porsche Boxster ( 4/1997) 8:54
Mini Cooper S Works ( 9/2004) 8:55
AMG-Mercedes SLK-230 Kompressor ( 5/1997) 9:07
VW Golf V6 4motion ( 4/2000) 9:09

So no miata on that comparison but even the regular C5 vette is a second slower. The mini cooper s is totally ass-whooped being 15 seconds behind. Hey even the Lotus Exige is below the S2000 on that particular track.

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So a S2k...might be kinda sorta not really worth it if you drive on the track all the time. Otherwise its a slow pos that costs more then many cars that are faster. Dont you think its sad that you might spend 34k to buy this "nice" honda roadster and then while driving it around, you get your ass handed to you by a 24k sentra SE-R.

Please mention any roadster/sportscar in the $30k range that's even close to the S2000's performance. And don't bring the stupid argument about buying some econobox and modify it to beat just about anything at the track. If that's the case, I can get a *insert car here* and build it to be a track monster. A stock sentra SE-R won't keep up with an S2K around the track given that the S2K has a competent driver.

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If i ever fit in an S2k...can you get me a pillow?? I can take a nap while it strains to get to 5k and make anything that resembles power.

Your ignorance truly shows here. You will be surprised how quick you can get an S2K on its powerband.

And don't get me wrong, I ain't no honda fanboy, I'm a DSM guy which we are known to be honda haters. So yeah I'm no honda fan but the S2000 sure is a nice piece of engineering, that's way better than what you fools label it to be.

RedlineTA · 02-09-2007, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTsixxer

You have no clue what you're talking about. The weakest link on the S2K trannie is the clutch. If anything you'll be replacing the clutch. And like I said, the S2K is not drag racing car, it's a whole lot more complete than a drag racer.

A competent driver will do circles around a mini, the mazdaspeed miata might be neck and neck but I rather drive an S2K than a girlie-looking miata.

Let's see some lap times at the 'ring:

LAPTIMES - Nordschleife (20.832km)

BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52 (Unofficial)
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59 (Unofficial)
Subaru Impreza WRX STi SPEC C (??/2004) 7:59
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 8/1999) 8:03
Lamborghini Diablo GT ( 7/2000) 8:04
Ferrari 575M Maranello (12/2002) 8:05
Ferrari 550 Maranello ( 6/1998) 8:07
Honda NSX-R ( 8/2002) 8:09 (7:56 claimed, link???)
Lamborghini Diablo SV ( 12/1997) 8:09
Ferrari F360 Modena ( 10/1999) 8:09
Donkervoort D8 180R ( 3/2001) 8:10
Chrysler Viper GTS ( 10/1997) 8:10
Mercedes SL55 AMG ( 5/2002) 8:12
Dodge Viper SRT-10 (10/2004) 8:13
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 ( 5/1999) 8:13
AC-Schnitzer-BMW CLS III ( 11/1997) 8:16
Porsche 911 Carrera (10/2001) 8:17
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish ( 1/2003) 8:17
Porsche 911 Carrera ( 1/1998) 8:17
Chevrolet Corvette Com. Edition ( 9/2003) 8:18
Ferrari F355 ( 6/1997) 8:18
BMW Z8 ( 8/2000) 8:18
Audi RS6 ( 9/2002) 8:20
Mercedes C55 AMG ( 7/2004) 8:22
BMW M3 ( 12/2000) 8:22
BMW M Coupe ( 10/1998) 8:22
Aston Martin DB7 GT ( 7/2003) 8:23
Porsche Carrera 4 ( 2/2001) 8:23
Subaru Impreza WRX STi ( 5/2004) 8:24
Mitsubishi Carisma GT EVO VII (11/2002) 8:25
Callaway C12 Coupe ( 4/1999) 8:25
Audi RS4 ( 10/2000) 8:25
Mitsubishi Carisma GT EVO VI ( 11/1999) 8:25
Nissan 350Z (10/2003) 8:26
BMW M5 ( 3/1999) 8:28
Mercedes CLK 55 AMG ( 5/2000) 8:29
Audi S4 Avant (11/2003) 8:29
Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa (10/2002) 8:30
Lotus Exige ( 8/2004) 8:32
BMW Z4 3.0 SMG ( 5/2003) 8:32
BMW M Roadster ( 9/1997) 8:32
Porsche Boxster S ( 12/1999) 8:32
Opel Speedster Turbo ( 4/2004) 8:34
BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i ( 4/2001) 8:34
Brabus-Mercedes C V8 Coupé ( 2/2002) 8:35
Porsche Boxster ( 3/2003) 8:36
BMW M3 SMG ( 3/1997) 8:35
BMW Alpina B3 3.3 ( 7/1999) 8:36
VW Golf R32 ( 2/2003) 8:37
Mercedes C32 AMG ( 9/2001) 8:37
Maserati 3200 GT ( 9/2000) 8:37
Subaru Impreza GT Turbo ( 3/2000) 8:37
Honda NSX ( 8/1997) 8:38
Brabus-Mercedes CLK 5.8 ( 12/1998) 8:38
Mercedes SL500 (12/2001) 8:38
Morgan Aero 8 ( 4/2003) 8:39
Honda S2000 ( 1/2000) 8:39
Chevrolet Corvette ( 7/1997) 8:40
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage ( 9/1999) 8:41
Audi S3 ( 6/1999) 8:41
Audi S4 ( 8/1998) 8:42
Lotus Exige ( 11/2000) 8:42
Honda Civic Type-R (11/2001) 8:47
Renaul Clio Sport V6 ( 7/2001) 8:49
Jaguar XKR Coupe ( 7/1998) 8:49
Audi TT 1.8T quattro ( 11/1998) 8:49
Alpina B10 3.2 ( 4/1998) 8:50
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA ( 6/2002) 8:51
Mercedes Benz C43 AMG ( 3/1998) 8:51
Mercedes CLK 430 ( 9/1998) 8:52
VW Golf GTI ( 1/2002) 8:54
Porsche Boxster ( 4/1997) 8:54
Mini Cooper S Works ( 9/2004) 8:55
AMG-Mercedes SLK-230 Kompressor ( 5/1997) 9:07
VW Golf V6 4motion ( 4/2000) 9:09

So no miata on that comparison but even the regular C5 vette is a second slower. The mini cooper s is totally ass-whooped being 15 seconds behind. Hey even the Lotus Exige is below the S2000 on that particular track.

Please mention any roadster/sportscar in the $30k range that's even close to the S2000's performance. And don't bring the stupid argument about buying some econobox and modify it to beat just about anything at the track. If that's the case, I can get a *insert car here* and build it to be a track monster. A stock sentra SE-R won't keep up with an S2K around the track given that the S2K has a competent driver.

Your ignorance truly shows here. You will be surprised how quick you can get an S2K on its powerband.

And don't get me wrong, I ain't no honda fanboy, I'm a DSM guy which we are known to be honda haters. So yeah I'm no honda fan but the S2000 sure is a nice piece of engineering, that's way better than what you fools label it to be.

You realize you posted up non-current times, and inaddition to that you highlighted the fact that it beat a 97' Corvette.......just sayin.

* 6:55 - Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (28 Sep 2005),
* 7:12 - Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03)
* 7:14 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 398 PS/760 kg, Michael Düchting (sport auto 11/05),
* 7:15 - Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, de

atrick Simon (sport auto 09/05)
* 7:18 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Düchting (sport auto 12/04)
* 7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walter Röhrl , (Autobild 07/04)
* 7.32 - Porsche Carrera GT (Sport Auto Trophy, driven by Horst von Saurma)
* 7.32 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600PS/1432 kg (Gemballa)
* 7:33 - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1230 kg (sport auto 05/06)
* 7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05
* 7:40 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
* 7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
* 7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS/1320 kg (160.868 kph) (Autobild 07/04)
* 7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg, Walter Röhrl (Automobil 05/06)
* 7:42 - Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
* 7:43 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06,(blue devil test car) 512 PS/1419 kg, Jan Magnussen, 2005/06/23 (news release, pictures)
* 7:43 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
* 7:44 - Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/ 1280 kg (sport auto 02/05)
* 7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
* 7:47 - Porsche 996 GT3 RS (sport tyres) [citation needed]
* 7:47 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear (sport tyres) (sport auto 01/07)
* 7:48 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06)
* 7:50 - Westfield Megabusa, 180 PS/440 kg [citation needed]
* 7:50 - Lamborghini Murcielago, (sport auto 06/02)
* 7:50 - BMW M3 E46 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
* 7:52 - Porsche 996 GT3 (381 hp) [citation needed]
* 7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo [citation needed]
* 7:53 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 (manufacturer claim, Dave Hill)
* 7:54 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 [citation needed]
* 7:55 - Caterham R500 Superlight, 233 PS/460 kg, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
* 7:55 - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06)
* 7:56 - Honda NSX-R, 280 PS/1270 kg, Incomplete lap by 30 metres, Motoharu Kurosawa, (best MOTOring 08/02)
* 7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo (sport auto 06/00)
* 7:56 - Ferrari 360 stradale (sport tyres) (sport auto 02/04)
* 7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 hp, racing suspension) [citation needed]
* 7:59 - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, Walter Röhrl, (WHEELS 06/04)
* 7:59 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, Dirk Schoymans, unknown modifications (Autocar magazine 1997)
* 7:59 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51,405 PS/1481 kg, driver Dave Hill (manufacturer claim)
* 7:59 - Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C (Prototype), 280 PS/1370 kg (Subaru News 2004 [1])
* 8:01 - Bugatti EB 110 Supersport, 610 PS/1410 kg [citation needed]
* 8:03 - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
* 8:06 - Subaru WRX Sti Spec-C (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
* 8:07 - Ferrari 550 [citation needed]
* 8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV [citation needed]
* 8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena [citation needed]
* 8:09 - BMW M6 (sport tyres) [limited to 259 kph] (sport auto 12/05)
* 8:09 - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg, sport tires, suspension modification (sport auto 08/02)
* 8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS (Sport Auto 10/97)
* 8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer evo IX GSR,280 PS/1420 kg, Takayuki Kinoshita (Best MOTOring 02/05)
* 8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 hp version) [citation needed]
* 8:13 - BMW M5 (sport auto 12/04)
* 8:13 - Ferrari 355 GTB (Sport Auto 10/1994)
* 8:15 - BMW Z8 400 hp [citation needed]
* 8:17 - Porsche 996 C2 [citation needed]
* 8:22 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
* 8:22 - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
* 8:22 - BMW M Coupe 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
* 8:24 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI, sport tires (Sport Auto 05/04)
* 8:25 - Jaguar XKR (Sport Auto)
* 8:25 - Porsche Cayman S (Sport Auto)
* 8:25 - Audi RS4 375 hp [citation needed]
* 8:24 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/99)
* 8:25 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/02)
* 8:26 - BMW 335i Coupe (Sport Auto)
* 8:26 - Nissan 350Z (Sport Auto 10/03)
* 8:28 - Porsche 911 Carrera (993) (Sport Auto 07/97)
* 8:28 - BMW M5 400 hp [citation needed]
* 8:32 - Porsche Boxster S (Sport Auto 12/99)
* 8:35 - BMW M3 Coupe E36, 321 hp [citation needed]
* 8:36 - Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., oct,05), sport compact record holder
* 8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG [citation needed]
* 8:38 - Honda NSX (sport auto, 08/97)
* 8:39 - Honda S2000 (sport auto 01/00)
* 8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97)
* 8:42 - Audi S4 265 hp [citation needed]
* 8:42 - Lotus Exige, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/00)
* 8:47 - Honda Civic Type-R (Sport Auto 11/01)
* 8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe [citation needed]
* 8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430 [citation needed]

TTsixxer · 02-09-2007, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedlineTA

You realize you posted up non-current times, and inaddition to that you highlighted the fact that it beat a 97' Corvette.......just sayin.

* 6:55 - Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (28 Sep 2005),
* 7:12 - Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03)
* 7:14 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 398 PS/760 kg, Michael Düchting (sport auto 11/05),
* 7:15 - Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, de

atrick Simon (sport auto 09/05)
* 7:18 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Düchting (sport auto 12/04)
* 7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walter Röhrl , (Autobild 07/04)
* 7.32 - Porsche Carrera GT (Sport Auto Trophy, driven by Horst von Saurma)
* 7.32 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600PS/1432 kg (Gemballa)
* 7:33 - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1230 kg (sport auto 05/06)
* 7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05
* 7:40 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
* 7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
* 7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS/1320 kg (160.868 kph) (Autobild 07/04)
* 7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg, Walter Röhrl (Automobil 05/06)
* 7:42 - Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
* 7:43 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06,(blue devil test car) 512 PS/1419 kg, Jan Magnussen, 2005/06/23 (news release, pictures)
* 7:43 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
* 7:44 - Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/ 1280 kg (sport auto 02/05)
* 7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
* 7:47 - Porsche 996 GT3 RS (sport tyres) [citation needed]
* 7:47 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear (sport tyres) (sport auto 01/07)
* 7:48 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06)
* 7:50 - Westfield Megabusa, 180 PS/440 kg [citation needed]
* 7:50 - Lamborghini Murcielago, (sport auto 06/02)
* 7:50 - BMW M3 E46 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
* 7:52 - Porsche 996 GT3 (381 hp) [citation needed]
* 7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo [citation needed]
* 7:53 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 (manufacturer claim, Dave Hill)
* 7:54 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 [citation needed]
* 7:55 - Caterham R500 Superlight, 233 PS/460 kg, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
* 7:55 - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06)
* 7:56 - Honda NSX-R, 280 PS/1270 kg, Incomplete lap by 30 metres, Motoharu Kurosawa, (best MOTOring 08/02)
* 7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo (sport auto 06/00)
* 7:56 - Ferrari 360 stradale (sport tyres) (sport auto 02/04)
* 7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 hp, racing suspension) [citation needed]
* 7:59 - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, Walter Röhrl, (WHEELS 06/04)
* 7:59 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, Dirk Schoymans, unknown modifications (Autocar magazine 1997)
* 7:59 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51,405 PS/1481 kg, driver Dave Hill (manufacturer claim)
* 7:59 - Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C (Prototype), 280 PS/1370 kg (Subaru News 2004 [1])
* 8:01 - Bugatti EB 110 Supersport, 610 PS/1410 kg [citation needed]
* 8:03 - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
* 8:06 - Subaru WRX Sti Spec-C (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
* 8:07 - Ferrari 550 [citation needed]
* 8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV [citation needed]
* 8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena [citation needed]
* 8:09 - BMW M6 (sport tyres) [limited to 259 kph] (sport auto 12/05)
* 8:09 - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg, sport tires, suspension modification (sport auto 08/02)
* 8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS (Sport Auto 10/97)
* 8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer evo IX GSR,280 PS/1420 kg, Takayuki Kinoshita (Best MOTOring 02/05)
* 8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 hp version) [citation needed]
* 8:13 - BMW M5 (sport auto 12/04)
* 8:13 - Ferrari 355 GTB (Sport Auto 10/1994)
* 8:15 - BMW Z8 400 hp [citation needed]
* 8:17 - Porsche 996 C2 [citation needed]
* 8:22 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
* 8:22 - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
* 8:22 - BMW M Coupe 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
* 8:24 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI, sport tires (Sport Auto 05/04)
* 8:25 - Jaguar XKR (Sport Auto)
* 8:25 - Porsche Cayman S (Sport Auto)
* 8:25 - Audi RS4 375 hp [citation needed]
* 8:24 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/99)
* 8:25 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/02)
* 8:26 - BMW 335i Coupe (Sport Auto)
* 8:26 - Nissan 350Z (Sport Auto 10/03)
* 8:28 - Porsche 911 Carrera (993) (Sport Auto 07/97)
* 8:28 - BMW M5 400 hp [citation needed]
* 8:32 - Porsche Boxster S (Sport Auto 12/99)
* 8:35 - BMW M3 Coupe E36, 321 hp [citation needed]
* 8:36 - Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., oct,05), sport compact record holder
* 8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG [citation needed]
* 8:38 - Honda NSX (sport auto, 08/97)
* 8:39 - Honda S2000 (sport auto 01/00)
* 8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97)
* 8:42 - Audi S4 265 hp [citation needed]
* 8:42 - Lotus Exige, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/00)
* 8:47 - Honda Civic Type-R (Sport Auto 11/01)
* 8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe [citation needed]
* 8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430 [citation needed]

You totally missed my point, and you're comparing the S2000 from '00 to a C6. Comparing it to a C5 from '97 (which was totally unchanged in '00) to the S2K is a way more fair comparison.

Let's look at MSRP prices:

2007 Honda S2000: $34,250

2007 Corvette: $44,170 but since you wanna go overboard and compare it to the ZO6 then: $69,175

You are comparing it to a car that's almost 10 grand more expensive, that my friend ain't fair. Also add the fact that the S2000 has remained unchanged since it's debut 7 years ago. And two of those C6 lap times are manufacturer claims which means jack shit. Still it should run close to those times considering it's a completely redesigned car with a whole lot of horsepower.

RRRR6 · 02-09-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZQ8Dude

You know how they pull those times? Sidestep the clutch at 8k...screw that, ill buy a car that can make a pass without severely damaging the tranny.

Its handling is right with a miata or mini...why waste so much money for a tiny bit of performance?

So a S2k...might be kinda sorta not really worth it if you drive on the track all the time. Otherwise its a slow pos that costs more then many cars that are faster. Dont you think its sad that you might spend 34k to buy this "nice" honda roadster and then while driving it around, you get your ass handed to you by a 24k sentra SE-R.

If i ever fit in an S2k...can you get me a pillow?? I can take a nap while it strains to get to 5k and make anything that resembles power.

THIS MIGHT BE THE MOST REDICULOUS POST I'VE EVER SEEN....don't talk about stuff you don't know about...that's a good rule to live by.

RRRR6 · 02-09-2007, 08:58 AM

[quote=ZQ8Dude]

i said 30k, but msrp on the S2k is: 34,250...if you get a bare bones one.

QUOTE]

bare bones one huh....will you tell me about the options?????

because when I got one there weren't any....hmmmm

genius

FZ1-KEP · 02-09-2007, 11:23 AM

ZQ8Dude, I feel dumber from just reading your posts...

TTSixxer, and RRRR6

Another note, how many cars produce 120hp/liter, naturally aspirated?

Krazy Hawaiian · 02-09-2007, 01:49 PM

WOW! Impressive... this really blew up into a shit flingimg match!!!

*today only ames dog food only $3.99 for the delux stuffem full 50# bag!!

phufufoo · 02-09-2007, 01:59 PM

All I can say is sh!t hits the fan when fanboys come out to fan that sh!t.

oh yeah.... BMW for life!

jk

RRRR6 · 02-09-2007, 02:20 PM

I Must Say Phufufoo.......you Drive My Dream/NEXT Car! :-)

FZ1-KEP · 02-09-2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phufufoo

All I can say is sh!t hits the fan when fanboys come out to fan that sh!t.

oh yeah.... BMW for life!

jk

I've never seen the word "fan" used so many times in one sentence

RRRR6 · 02-09-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FZ6-KEP

I've never seen the word "fan" used so many times in one sentence

OR PHOO SO MANY TIMES IN ONE NAME

HighsideSV · 02-09-2007, 06:40 PM

This thread would be a lot better if it wasnt for all the fanboys taking a big fat shit right in the middle of it.

WE are talking about a MAZDA with a FORD motor in it. And here are all you douchebags ragging on about Hondas and Chevies, WTF? You guys wanna jerk each other off go start a thread for it.

capnjim01 · 02-09-2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy Hawaiian

WOW! Impressive... this really blew up into a shit flingimg match!!!

K. H. I know you are into excess so if you do Google search you may find the Bullet Super car. It was, may still be built in Australia or New Zealand, I can't remember and don't really care but it was a Miata with a Lexus V8 and had a supercharger as an option. Think the price was around $80,000

*today only ames dog food only $3.99 for the delux stuffem full 50# bag!!

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TTsixxer · 02-09-2007, 09:41 PM

Oh no, not the hp/l argument! hp/l means squat when the light drops!

RRRR6 · 02-10-2007, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redmenace

This thread would be a lot better if it wasnt for all the fanboys taking a big fat shit right in the middle of it.

WE are talking about a MAZDA with a FORD motor in it. And here are all you douchebags ragging on about Hondas and Chevies, WTF? You guys wanna jerk each other off go start a thread for it.

say something meaningful then.....