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There's a company that's been doing Ford 5.0 conversions on the Miatas for years. Can't remember who,but they are fairly well known and they were featured in a magazine article few years back(Hotrod?).
It's one of the aftermarket tuners that's been in business for quite a while and got into doing the conversions I guess because they seen an opportunity in the market place.
I think they may even sell some of the conversion parts.so someone could do it themselves.
If they kept up with the times I'm sure they moved on to the 4.6L Ford power plant conversions now which would be even more cool!
The small block Fords are great for conversions because of relative low cost for the parts/performance parts availability,overall power train size/weight/configuration and relative good engine H.P./torque for it's displacement and overall physical size.
Last edited by coolatula : 02-08-2007 at 03:02 PM.
You know there's a whole lot about performance other than the 1/4 mile. S2K is NOT a drag racing car, it is by far one the nicest handling cars around and on the 30k range not many come even close.
Yeah and its slow as balls. Other cars have just as much handling potential, but dont cost so much for little performance and dont have the torque curve of a DX honda.
i spend A LOT of time over 6K on the streets....that comment makes no sense...6K in first gear is 20mph....and a 30K vette isn't much vette....maybe a beat on c4...
i've driven every corvette ever produced (C1-c6) and i like most of them. most of my track experience is in an r9g c4 baker car and a rocketsports c5. i appreciate the raw hp (~800) but when you're on a track (especially certain tracks) it's the handling and braking that mean the most. I can't even remember how many ferraris, corvettes, stis, evos, and mustangs I've embarassed at the track......
because those cars have no potential eh??....so why is this 60s muscle car schooling the field?
No, but i mean in the terms of expensive sport cars...S2ks are the biggest waste. Dont you think its sad that for 25k you could build an SRT-4 that would handle better and be faster(without any engine mods)
i said 30k, but msrp on the S2k is: 34,250...if you get a bare bones one.
34k for something that makes no power until what 5k? and then it makes very little power and as you mentioned. NEEDS a blower. You will wind up spending over 40k only to get worked by a 35k cobra that has 1000 bucks in basic bolton parts.
P.S-S2ks are HIGHLY overrated.....30K for the car and 6K for the blower......or 30K for the C5/Z06 vette and 6K in mods=450+hp
I didn't know I could buy a Z06 for 30k? wow!? used maybe?
Not to be mean, but you guys are lame, by stating one car is worthless cause another one is faster and cheaper. Thats like saying vipers suck dick cause bucket civics with nos beat it in a straight line. Bottom line is enjoy you car for what it is and not bash other people for choosing theirs. Car bashers are just posers and just want to belong to some elitist club where only their mark is the shit. I love all cars cause all cars are good for something that the others aren't.
S2000's handle and have precise turning. Efficient little machine.
Muscle cars well are icons (if you're into that thing) and have big engines and big hp numbers, but its easy when you have big displacement and no emissions. They also have style. (each their own)
If I thought like you guys I would have never ever ever even thought of buying my M3. It is sloooooooooww compared to what is out their today. It is exspensive and its a dirty mix breed. A wannabe sports luxury car. Too bad I didn't have the money to buy a porsche gt3 or a benz. I like it for what it is. It does a bit of everything and pretty well too imo.
No, but i mean in the terms of expensive sport cars...S2ks are the biggest waste. Dont you think its sad that for 25k you could build an SRT-4 that would handle better and be faster(without any engine mods)
i said 30k, but msrp on the S2k is: 34,250...if you get a bare bones one.
34k for something that makes no power until what 5k? and then it makes very little power and as you mentioned. NEEDS a blower. You will wind up spending over 40k only to get worked by a 35k cobra that has 1000 bucks in basic bolton parts.
btw are you talking straight line speed?
look at the NSX that thing is still a killer even with its 280hp engine and it costs well more then twice as much as the S2k and you only get a 60 (40?) hp boost. BOTTOM LINE BIG HP NUMBERS = EASY. A well balance car with low weight hard.
Hence why I mention a C5 Z06......because its in the same price range AND 1g+ on the skidpad.
You mean an USED C5? You can get a brand new S2K in the 30k range. Can't say the same about the ZO6. Even back in 2000 when the S2K came out, if I remember correctly the MSRP was 30k and the regular C5 was 40k+.
Skidpad numbers mean squat at the racetrack. All it tells you is the lateral G's while driving around a circle, a testament of lateral grip that can be mistakenly interpreted as the end-all-be-all of handling. There's more to handling than just running around a circle as fast as you can you know...
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What i meant was outside of first and second gear.....maybe even third (if you're lucky) when are you going to go the full length of the RPM range in a S2k.
And what you don't know is that honda does a great job gear-matching their cars. The S2K, just like any honda VTEC car is prefectly geared for its powerband, and believe it or not, gearing matters almost as much as raw horsepower. Trust me, it's not hard at all to get the S2K on its powerband at a moment's notice. I take it that you have never driven one...
Yeah and its slow as balls. Other cars have just as much handling potential, but dont cost so much for little performance and dont have the torque curve of a DX honda.
I feel stupid by just quoting you. Slow as balls? Maybe if all you care about is 1/4 mile times and even on that department, a stock S2K can get a high 13 sec pass if the driver knows how to launch, the average joe can run mid-low 14's all night long and that's not that slow, It's not a blistering fast car but it certainly ain't slow. Throw a few curves and a halfway competent driver and the S2K will eat many cars that are twice its cost alive.
Maybe if you ever get to drive one, you'll understand.
I feel stupid by just quoting you. Slow as balls? Maybe if all you care about is 1/4 mile times and even on that department, a stock S2K can get a high 13 sec pass if the driver knows how to launch, the average joe can run mid-low 14's all night long and that's not that slow, It's not a blistering fast car but it certainly ain't slow. Throw a few curves and a halfway competent driver and the S2K will eat many cars that are twice its cost alive.
Maybe if you ever get to drive one, you'll understand.
You know how they pull those times? Sidestep the clutch at 8k...screw that, ill buy a car that can make a pass without severely damaging the tranny.
Its handling is right with a miata or mini...why waste so much money for a tiny bit of performance?
So a S2k...might be kinda sorta not really worth it if you drive on the track all the time. Otherwise its a slow pos that costs more then many cars that are faster. Dont you think its sad that you might spend 34k to buy this "nice" honda roadster and then while driving it around, you get your ass handed to you by a 24k sentra SE-R.
If i ever fit in an S2k...can you get me a pillow?? I can take a nap while it strains to get to 5k and make anything that resembles power.
the first one is bound to be a 5.0 ford with that distrubitor cap in front huh?
I knew that someone had a kit for the miata that used a 5.0, but I thought there was a lot to it, radiator, and atleast a new front springs to handle the extra weight, trans, and rearend... Best thing the miata ever had going for it was the rear wheel drive.
I think your right, the 5.0-miata swap has been around for a long time (probably since the first year miatas were sold here).
The American V8 - japanese car swap has been around for a long time (i think the old Datsun Zcar->SBC swap was the big start of the whole thing). Small well handling cars with nice strong easy to work on motors are something that everyone has a desire for, why they dont make more of them from the factory is beyond me.
I would love to see a new version of the old Chevy Nova or any number of other muscle-car era compacts. Something fast and affordable without any real creature comforts to drive up the price. I dont think we can really blame the car companies for this though. Safety and emissions requirements have probably made such a car something of an impossibility these days.
Last edited by HighsideSV : 02-09-2007 at 12:43 AM.
I think your right, the 5.0-miata swap has been around for a long time (probably since the first year miatas were sold here).
The American V8 - japanese car swap has been around for a long time (i think the old Datsun Zcar->SBC swap was the big start of the whole thing). Small well handling cars with nice strong easy to work on motors are something that everyone has a desire for, why they dont make more of them from the factory is beyond me.
Maybe because SBC Datsuns are monsters??....what i wouldnt give for one.
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