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I found this on another forum. Don't have any clue as to if it's true or not, but...
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"The Supreme court just ruled that there can be no legal consequences for cops who kill or cripple the people in the vehicles they are chasing, if they use their patrol cars as the weapon of choice. They also set 100mph as the baseline for a speed which constitutes an unquestionable "imminent threat to life & property" which in turn then allows their use of deadly force. Double a lower speed limit (60 in a 30 for example) is anticipated to carry the same weight. This ruling applies to motorcycles or four wheeled vehicles.
So before you take a run at or above 100mph, if don't catch the approaching cop car in your in your rearview-- just before his bumper delivers you to your maker--just remember--it's now entirely legal for them to ram & kill you for speeding like that.
Oh! And be careful pulling over too!!---if the cops run over you after you stop--it's not their fault either!! This was upheld by a separate case, heard at the same time by the US Supreme court, where the cops did just that to a motorcycle with a passenger-- who was killed when the cops ran them down after they had pulled over & stopped.
Be prepared for a massive expansion of wild cop chases. I bet the producers of the cop chase shows are wetting their pants in anticipation... "
I found this on another forum. Don't have any clue as to if it's true or not, but...
Qutoed word for word from the post
"The Supreme court just ruled that there can be no legal consequences for cops who kill or cripple the people in the vehicles they are chasing, if they use their patrol cars as the weapon of choice. They also set 100mph as the baseline for a speed which constitutes an unquestionable "imminent threat to life & property" which in turn then allows their use of deadly force. Double a lower speed limit (60 in a 30 for example) is anticipated to carry the same weight. This ruling applies to motorcycles or four wheeled vehicles.
So before you take a run at or above 100mph, if don't catch the approaching cop car in your in your rearview-- just before his bumper delivers you to your maker--just remember--it's now entirely legal for them to ram & kill you for speeding like that.
Oh! And be careful pulling over too!!---if the cops run over you after you stop--it's not their fault either!! This was upheld by a separate case, heard at the same time by the US Supreme court, where the cops did just that to a motorcycle with a passenger-- who was killed when the cops ran them down after they had pulled over & stopped.
Be prepared for a massive expansion of wild cop chases. I bet the producers of the cop chase shows are wetting their pants in anticipation... "
Interesting. After my last final in Friday, I'll have to look up the case and read what the exact ruling was. Some of that seems like it might be a bit overstated and likely a bit exaggerated or missing some contextual details. But who knows, it will be interesting to read it.
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yeah I saw that posted on my jeep forum. Its received a complete different POV over there. They feel its fine that the cops can run you off the road and cripple you/ kill you for just a minro traffic violation. A $60 ticket just doesn't seem worth a life or debilitating injury IMHO.
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Since when is going 100mph a $60 ticket? That speed, in ANY speed zone, will lead to a revoked liscense, and they could very well take you straight to jail for it as well.
I'm kind of torn on it though. On one hand, driving 100 mph IS (or can be) a danger to others lives. If someone hurt or killed one of my friends, family members, etc, driving that fast, I'd kill them myself...
...But, it's not like any of us can say "I've NEVER went 100 mph"...
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no I am talking about the 80 in a 70 speeding ticket then they take off. I was being sarcastic though for the cost. If they clock you doing 100mph on a busy interstate I can see comin after ya.
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Since when is going 100mph a $60 ticket? That speed, in ANY speed zone, will lead to a revoked liscense, and they could very well take you straight to jail for it as well.
I'm kind of torn on it though. On one hand, driving 100 mph IS (or can be) a danger to others lives. If someone hurt or killed one of my friends, family members, etc, driving that fast, I'd kill them myself...
...But, it's not like any of us can say "I've NEVER went 100 mph"...
I only ride at 60MPH...thats the reason I paid a lot of money for my sportbike...TO CRUISE!!!!
its not necessarily "Oh hes going 100, let me knock him off the road". If you fail to yeild and instigate a chase by not pulling over, thats your own stupidty.
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yeah I saw that posted on my jeep forum. Its received a complete different POV over there. They feel its fine that the cops can run you off the road and cripple you/ kill you for just a minro traffic violation. A $60 ticket just doesn't seem worth a life or debilitating injury IMHO.
And Ive heard this argument over and over. It was jsut a minor traffic violation. Heres a thought..dont you think they had a reason to run? like multiple warrants for murder and the like? Tis wouldnt happen if people would pull over. and STAY there. If you run..then expect to be chased. And if you pose that much of a danger to the public, by all means, Pit manuever ftw!.
They are not going to just knock you off the road and crippl you jsut because they saw you speeding. Is for failure to pull over when being pulled, and cusing a massive chase.
/rant off
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Didn't they have a xase or wasn't there a case in which the officer did just that? He used his car to ram or push the vehicle off the road which then hit a a barrier turning the driver into a parapelegic? The driver was moving at speeds up to 100 I believe, had faied to stop at numerous occasions (one being where he turned around in a parking lot and them rammed a cop car to escape), and that was when the officer called in to get authorization to "take him out." It was in court to determine if the officer used improper tactics or force that caused the injuries.
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Besides what they ruled the local municipalities have banned most departments from chasing over 100mph unless the attempt to stop was for a felony to start with. I think this ruling would be in the event that they thought the chase was needed due to the crime. They did a study and found that a high percentage of cases where there were chases in excess of 100 mph almost always ended up in some form of crashes. A lot of them were cops speeding to try and catch up to the chase along with the actual chase usually ending with a crash. The risk to the rest of the public isn't worth it just for a traffic ticket and the when it was found out that the cops killed someone by crashing into an innocent victim the lawyers had a field day. I'm sure the payouts sucked but they still cost too much for the departments.
This was huge down in florida after cops killed a few people and all the person had was a traffic warrant or no insurance or half a joint in the car from last week.
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Originally Posted by Haz-Matt
And Ive heard this argument over and over. It was jsut a minor traffic violation. Heres a thought..dont you think they had a reason to run? like multiple warrants for murder and the like? Tis wouldnt happen if people would pull over. and STAY there. If you run..then expect to be chased. And if you pose that much of a danger to the public, by all means, Pit manuever ftw!.
They are not going to just knock you off the road and crippl you jsut because they saw you speeding. Is for failure to pull over when being pulled, and cusing a massive chase.
/rant off
you need to hang with more of the guys cause there is plenty that have run purely due to speeding. But just like my jeep website I refuse to argue my opinion cause I am not going to change you, and you aren't gonna change me.
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And Ive heard this argument over and over. It was jsut a minor traffic violation. Heres a thought..dont you think they had a reason to run? like multiple warrants for murder and the like? Tis wouldnt happen if people would pull over. and STAY there. If you run..then expect to be chased. And if you pose that much of a danger to the public, by all means, Pit manuever ftw!.
They are not going to just knock you off the road and crippl you jsut because they saw you speeding. Is for failure to pull over when being pulled, and cusing a massive chase.
/rant off
I've seen tons of chases started for nothing more than a traffic stop, speeding or what ever. So, if the cop accidently runs you over while driving down the road and then finds out later your not the guy he was chasing and apparently lost but your bike looked just like the one you'd be ok with that!
Cops can kill you for speeding!!!
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