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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-02-2013, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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Hello I am just getting into riding and I read most of the stickys and they were very helpful. Thanks to everyone who took the time to write for us noobs.
Okay... I have decided to start out small with the Kawasaki Ninja 250r for its affordability, looks, and overall bang for my buck, and I plan on spending 750 to 1000 dollars on gear. The one thing that I was unable to decide on was what gear I should buy. I know leather is the best and what I'm going for, and I should get a helmet, jacket, boots, and gloves. BUT what can Iget for 750 bucks? What makes should I consider? What's a good yet affordable helmet around $150? What gloves should I get? Boots? Jackets? Any help would be great. Thanks:
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750 is plenty for gear, also add a pair of riding jeans/pants

Snell 2010 Bell Vortex $120 Bell Vortex B-54 Helmet - RevZilla or find a better deal some where else online.
Teknic Lightning Gloves around $100

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For best gear prices, I recommend the closeout sections of the popular online stores - Dennis Kirk, Competition Accessories, Motorcycle Closeouts, our own STG, and the like.

I will let other Floridians weigh in on the desirability of leather there, but personally I'd be looking for a three-season textile jacket with good armor.

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Motorcycle Closeouts should get you a new helmet, jacket, and gloves for well under $750.00.

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Thanks for the help. I think I made a decision.

Helmet- Scorpion EXO-700 Predator

Jacket- Speed and Strength Seven Sins textile jacket with Icon Stryker field armor under it.

Pants- Icon under armor and knee pads.

Boots- Icon Superduty 3

Gloves- Cortech Adrenaline full gloves

I really like the look of everything and STG is a great site for any other info I needed. It looks like I've got almost all my body covered for around $650 and I'll have a pretty great time.

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I'd rethink the boots. Chunky work boots will grab asphalt during a spill and you want boots to slide. Why? Imagine your upper torso going 40mph and your foot trying to go 15mph while trying to grip everything it comes into contact with. Bad idea.

Up your foot budget a bit more.
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At the $200 price point there are some really fantastic boots from sidi, a* and tcx. They are responsible for you walking. Protect them a bit better if you can.
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Okay thanks I'll go with the Latigos.
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I'd stay away from Speed and Strength. Same with Icon, they are more of a fashion company then actual safety gear.

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Really? No one I've heard said that.
Does anyone else agree with. Rider?
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No that's BS. While Icon and S&S might make extra flashy gear, it's still well made stuff. That Speed and Strength Jacket you mentioned even uses actual Knox amor: Speed and Strength Seven Sins Jackets, Black, White, Stealth, Hi-Viz Yellow - Compacc.com

I lived in Florida for a long time and had a Ninja 250 down there for about 2 years. I wore a waterproof Joe Rocket jacket and pants setup and was hot 80% of the time (I still wore my gear though!). Getting gear that is not waterproof or even mesh gear will leave you a lot more comfortable for most of the year in Florida. Perforated leather can be pretty comfortable too, and that's what I'd go with if I was going to do more aggressive style riding.

I agree with the previous comments on the boots - those work style boots are clunky for shifting and braking, I much prefer something like the Cortech Latigos.
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Really? No one I've heard said that.
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Icon especially has that reputation. S&S hasn't been around that long. But I have an Icon Asphault (sic) jacket that I bought over an Alpinestar because it was clearly better made. Neither company makes their own helmets.

I think you're on the right track getting a complete but moderately inexpensive set of gear to start with. Like the bike, it's unlikely to be your last purchase unless it ends up stuck in a closet because riding turns out to not be for you.

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The stryker field armor is trash as far as I'm concerned. It beats wearing a phone book with duct tape, but whatever.

I'd prefer knox or forcefield armor myself, but bear in mind that it's more expensive. Regardless props on you for even wearing at least what you're wearing. Most people I see out and about wear hoodies and sneakers. It's your personal choice, wear what you want. Just know that there are better options available out there if you're looking to truly protect your body and not make a fashion statement. If you want something with more/better protection you'll have to do your own research on each individual item.

I do know that S&S gloves felt like absolute cheap garbage when I tried them on. Their jackets I haven't bothered looking at much further as none of their styles really turned me on. A helmet that passes dot/snell/ece is fine and all but the fitment of the helmet is really what matters and you should base your purchase off of that first and foremost.

edit - for the tl;dr - Leather is moAr better than textile, and kevlar jeans (I also wear those) do work, but offer less protection compared to leather/textile pants with built in padding. But they beat nothing at all. Ride accordingly knowing that those garments will tend to fail you at higher speeds.

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You all sound very competent and friendly. This forum is really amazing and everyone is really helpful! Thank you all for helping me make the right choice with gear and a bike.
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Yea don't listen to the S&S and ICON being crappy comment. I have an alliance helmet and my fiance has the S&S cat out of hell helmet. Both DOT and ECE approved. I would say that ICON is a bit overpriced though. S&S is quickly becoming my favorite brand though, I have the S&S Twist of fate SX gloves and they rock!!

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Icon is more sketchy I would think- but I know people who are happy in it.

And Speed and Strength? I've never heard that at all. They make perfectly acceptable gear. Just because it isn't a name brand doesn't mean it's crap (says the owner of a pair of A* that are blown apart after roughly 1.5 years of use)


Scorpion and Joe Rocket are also middle of the road quality gear. I love my scorpion helmet. I had a joe rocket- it was a great entry level textile and severed me very well. My friend has a Joe Rocket leather that's been down more than once and looks/feels great.

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